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download with error correction.
by a 28 Jul '17

28 Jul '17

Dear Glug; Trying to download some videos,believe it is not happening due to transmission error. What program could I use on Ubuntu to resolve the problem Thanks,Anthony K

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Albuquerque Manzano Mesa Multi-generational Center; queries
by Tom Ashcraft 17 Jul '17

17 Jul '17

Greetings all interested Linux persons, I took an impromptu opportunity this morning to do a casual survey of MMMGC to ask about the possibility of Albuquerque-based nmglug mailing list members having some meetings there. I spoke briefly to facility coordinator Tyler Dunn who asked me which Linux group I was talking about. Turns out NM Computer Society-Linux already meets there 2nd Thursdays 7:15-8:45 pm. Anyone already familiar with this group? If I remember correctly Tyler also said that either he was personally active in, or had at least attended meetings, himself. Tyler introduced me to Ed Cardona, MMMGC computer lab director, who gave me something of an overview of the needs and characteristics of established lab users. Much of it I frankly can't remember well as there were considerable distractions at hand, both in the facility, and between my ears. For instance, several machines had just been hit by viruses. But significant points are as follows: Previously limited access had recently been extended--solely by virtue of the continued presence and willingness of volunteer monitors--to the full range of MMMGC open hours (Ed listed these to me as 9-12 T,Th; 1-3 M,W; 9-3 F,Sat.) Availability of said hours might easily be torpedoed in the event of any sort of property mishap (theft, damage, sabotage, etc.) A lot of structured classes take place in the facility; other groups use it frequently. I think Ed also said there either was an ongoing Linux class affiliated with Sandia Lab employees or there had been at one time. Someone said they had often found Linux discs left behind in the drives. Point being that there are considerable competing needs for access to the very nice but limited computer resources. Aside from the lab there are also several (three, I think) classroom-size rooms, all of which? are furnished with a monitor and projector. I didn't tour the rooms, but from prior visits I remember lots of chairs and plenty of table space. We'd be encouraged to use these spaces if/when more appropriate than the computer lab. Also, as I remember it, there are two large lobbies with comfortable tables and chairs, public Wifi and a large dining/event area all of which are available for casual non-reserved use by small informal groups, excepting meal-serving and reserved/scheduled-event times. Ed mentioned too that he knew of another Linux group that meets at the Bear Canyon community center. He's going to send me the name and email address of the leader. I'm not really clear on whether this is a group or a taught class, but I gathered the impression it's a group similar to nmglug. Does anybody know about this group? Finally, I emailed Ed to state that I would try to gather assessments of or gage desire for actual use of the lab computers versus simpler and more available meeting/presentation/discussion/workspace, etc.--which I am hereby doing... Additionally,Tyler asked if, and I think--in my state of near complete ignorance--that it might also be appropriate to gage how much overlap and interest there is in possibly coordinating meetings with either or both of the other Linux groups mentioned above. How much, if anything, does anyone know or care about the NM Computer Society-Linux and the Bear Canyon Linux group? I can sort of guess and I imagine one or both have webpages, but for now I'll just put it out there in case there are other clueless Albuquerque newbies like myself who'd like to know what everybody else knows, or doesn't. Tom in Albuquerque

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programming course this coming weekend - any help and/or laptops?
by Mark Galassi 10 Jul '17

10 Jul '17

Dear nmglugers, This weekend I'm teaching my "serious programming for kids" course again. This is a course where the kids have to bring an old laptop and we start by having them install a GNU/Linux distribution. I wonder if the nmglug community could help me with some things: * Making sure the network at Warehouse 21 is OK. This is both for my Thursday 6:15pm class upstairs, and for my weekend class downstairs. * Anyone want to come and assist with the installfest on Saturday July 8 morning at 10am? If there is one nmgluger that really helps. * Does anyone have old laptops? The kids are supposed to pester their grandparents for old laptops, but I like to keep a batch of loaners available in case kids cannot find them. Anything with 2gig or more is good. More info is at: https://sites.google.com/site/santafecoding/

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Trisquel on VBox
by Brian OKeefe 18 May '17

18 May '17

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nmglug Albuquerque subset?
by Tom Ashcraft 16 May '17

16 May '17

Hi, I'm a non-professional Linux newbie who finds the prospect of making a special trip to Santa Fe to check out nmglug a bit of a stretch. But though I think my needs (and aptitude) are modest, the learning curve is steep. And the seemingly endless online searches leading only to more and more incomprehensible rabbit holes are expensive in terms of time, mental energy and spiritual isolation. So I have a couple of questions that I hope someone associated with nmglug might be willing to give me some perspective on. First, is there an identified group of Albuquerque-based members that might be made known to me with whom I might make contact? Second, is it acceptable for a very peripheral participant/non-participant to occasionally outline problems or specific situations and ask for help here? Thanks for reading, Tom in Albuquerque

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No google search
by Brian OKeefe 16 May '17

16 May '17

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Re: [nmglug] nmglug Albuquerque subset?
by Mark “TheMechanicalMan” Waid 16 May '17

16 May '17

I think UNM would be best if possible. The students there could benefit, and they have nice facilities. I would also be willing to help with some rides for anyone near me or on the way. I'm near San Mateo and Montgomery if anyone is in need. Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 8:20 PM, nmglug-request(a)lists.nmglug.org wrote: > > Send nmglug mailing list submissions to > nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmglug-request(a)lists.nmglug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmglug-owner(a)lists.nmglug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of nmglug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: nmglug Albuquerque subset? (Tom Ashcraft) > 2. Re: No google search (Andres Paglayan) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 15:53:22 -0600 > From: Tom Ashcraft <trailerdog234(a)comcast.net> > To: "NMGLUG.org mailing list" <nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org> > Subject: Re: [nmglug] nmglug Albuquerque subset? > Message-ID: <270c7c46-eb0b-1ab6-a3cc-b41e26cd74cd(a)comcast.net> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > Computer Labs--City of Albuquerque: > > http://www.cabq.gov/family/facilities-centers/computer-labs > > >>> On 05/16/2017 03:39 AM, Anthony J. Bentley wrote: >>> Tom Ashcraft writes: >>> It happens that I used to spend a lot of time in Manzano Mesa Multi >>> Generational Center for the inexpensive gym facilities. There used to be >>> and I believe there still is a pretty nicely appointed computer lab in >>> there, as well as other suitable and spacious meeting rooms. I'm pretty >>> sure reservations can be made there for nominal or non-existent fees. >>> Likely the other community centers around town also offer appropriate >>> facilities, though MMMGC is the only one I have any direct knowledge of >>> as for me it was reasonable to bicycle to. >> My thoughts on locations... >> >> Manzano Mesa would be a great location. It's a very nice facility, >> close to Central Avenue (public transportation) and I-40. Like Tom, >> I can bike there easily (and do, often). Has city wifi which in my >> experience is satisfactory. >> >> Quelab might be a good facility (I've never visited). It has poor bus >> service, though, and I can't bike there easily. At least it's close to >> the Big I. Membership is $20/mo, looks like. >> >> UNM surely has some appropriate facility somewhere. It would be nice to >> try to attract some students from there; I wasn't aware of any Unix >> clubs during my time as a student (fairly recently). It has excellent >> bus service, but people with cars will have a hard time finding parking. >> Network connectivity for non-students is a problem that would need solving. >> >> There are other possibilities in the more startup-y parts downtown, like >> Fatpipe or the Verge building, maybe... >> >> As was said earlier, no location will be perfect for everyone. I have to >> say I find the Manzano Mesa community center the most attractive. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 20:19:42 -0600 > From: Andres Paglayan <andres(a)paglayan.com> > To: "NMGLUG.org mailing list" <nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org> > Subject: Re: [nmglug] No google search > Message-ID: <921f8846-7f22-99fb-1ccc-a6d2b753b5af(a)paglayan.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed" > > officially weird then > > >> On 05/16/2017 08:22 AM, Brian OKeefe wrote: >> Hi Andres and all, >> Here at Iconik connected to the network so all I have is the same result. >> >>> On 05/15/2017 01:33 PM, Andres Paglayan wrote: >>> >>> what happens if you create another user account in the same machine >>> and try from there? >>> >>> have you tried connecting form another network, like wifi from a coffee? >> No difference >>> >>> have you installed any recent extension? >>> >>> did you create any nftables / iptables rules? >>> >>> for diagnosis only, what happens if you include one of google's ips >>> on the hosts file? >>> >>> >>> >>>> On 05/14/2017 09:00 PM, Brian OKeefe wrote: >>>> Another bit of info but how useful? I have DraftLogic distance >>>> calculator I use in firefox. It uses google maps and layers on that. >>>> Google maps load for that site but not as maps.google.com. Here's >>>> DraftLogic:https://www.daftlogic.com/projects-advanced-google-maps-distance…. >>>> Anybody know other sites that use google maps I could try? >>>> Thanks >>>> >>>>> On 05/14/2017 01:21 PM, Max Bond wrote: >>>>> Could you bring it to the next session? I have a couple ideas, but >>>>> they're not very friendly to remote debugging. >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Brian OKeefe <okeefe(a)cybermesa.com >>>>> <mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Also no google earth. App loads but can't search but can zoom >>>>> in, rotate, etc. >>>>> Thanks for helping! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 05/13/2017 07:16 PM, Max Bond wrote: >>>>>> That is very strange. Does anyone have a hypothesis? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Brian OKeefe >>>>>> <okeefe(a)cybermesa.com <mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Firefox 53.0.2, tried Chrome, Chromium, Pale Moon, all >>>>>> latest from updates >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 05/13/2017 05:02 PM, Max Bond wrote: >>>>>>> What I can conclude for the information that was in the >>>>>>> email is that you are able to reach https://google.com >>>>>>> from the terminal. Since you said you weren't able to do >>>>>>> this from the browser, that suggests you were correct & >>>>>>> that the issue is with your browser. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could you tell us precisely which browser you're using & >>>>>>> what version? You mentioned using Firefox; have you tried >>>>>>> from Chromium? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Max >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Max Bond >>>>>>> <max.o.bond(a)gmail.com <mailto:max.o.bond@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Brian, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pardon me for not explaining better, but those >>>>>>> commands created a series of .txt files (tr-dns.txt, >>>>>>> tr-direct.txt, etc) which have the relevant >>>>>>> information inside them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Could you attach those files? The names are at the >>>>>>> end of every line, after the ">". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Brian OKeefe >>>>>>> <okeefe(a)cybermesa.com <mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com>> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks Max, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's the terminal output: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# traceroute >>>>>>> google.com <http://google.com> > tr-dns.txt >>>>>>> root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# traceroute >>>>>>> 172.217.11.238 > tr-direct.txt >>>>>>> root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig any >>>>>>> ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net >>>>>>> <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net> > >>>>>>> nxdomain-default.txt >>>>>>> root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig @8.8.8.8 >>>>>>> <http://8.8.8.8> any >>>>>>> ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net >>>>>>> <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net> > >>>>>>> nxdomain-google.txt >>>>>>> root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# >>>>>>> root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# >>>>>>> root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig @8.8.8.8 >>>>>>> <http://8.8.8.8> any >>>>>>> ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net >>>>>>> <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net> > >>>>>>> nxdomain-google.txt >>>>>>> root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig any >>>>>>> google.com <http://google.com> > dns-default.txt >>>>>>> root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig @8.8.8.8 >>>>>>> <http://8.8.8.8> any google.com >>>>>>> <http://google.com> > dns-google.txt >>>>>>> root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# curl -IX HEAD >>>>>>> google.com <http://google.com> > http-dns.txt >>>>>>> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed >>>>>>> Time Time Time Current >>>>>>> Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed >>>>>>> 0 219 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- >>>>>>> --:--:-- --:--:-- 0 >>>>>>> root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# curl -IX HEAD -H >>>>>>> "Host: google.com <http://google.com>" >>>>>>> 172.217.11.238 > http-direct.txt >>>>>>> % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed >>>>>>> Time Time Time Current >>>>>>> Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed >>>>>>> 0 219 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- >>>>>>> --:--:-- --:--:-- 0 >>>>>>> root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# (echo -en "GET / >>>>>>> HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: google.com >>>>>>> <http://google.com>\r\n\r\n"; sleep 5;) | openssl >>>>>>> s_client -connect 172.217.11.238:443 >>>>>>> <http://172.217.11.238:443> > https-direct.txt >>>>>>> depth=3 C = US, O = Equifax, OU = Equifax Secure >>>>>>> Certificate Authority >>>>>>> verify return:1 >>>>>>> depth=2 C = US, O = GeoTrust Inc., CN = GeoTrust >>>>>>> Global CA >>>>>>> verify return:1 >>>>>>> depth=1 C = US, O = Google Inc, CN = Google >>>>>>> Internet Authority G2 >>>>>>> verify return:1 >>>>>>> depth=0 C = US, ST = California, L = Mountain >>>>>>> View, O = Google Inc, CN = *.google.com >>>>>>> <http://google.com> >>>>>>> verify return:1 >>>>>>> DONE >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 05/13/2017 02:09 PM, Max Bond wrote: >>>>>>>> Sorry for the chat-style messages, but as a last >>>>>>>> note, I know you tried changing your DNS >>>>>>>> settings, those last tests are meant to check >>>>>>>> for your ISP rewriting DNS responses. It's been >>>>>>>> known to happen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Max Bond >>>>>>>> <max.o.bond(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:max.o.bond@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> (Obviously NXDomain hijacking wouldn't cause >>>>>>>> the problems you're experiencing, that's >>>>>>>> more meant to gauge CyberMesa's willingness >>>>>>>> to tamper with your traffic.) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Max Bond >>>>>>>> <max.o.bond(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:max.o.bond@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Could you run a couple of commands to >>>>>>>> test for bad behavior by your ISP? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # Middleware boxes? Won't reveal clever >>>>>>>> ones. >>>>>>>> traceroute google.com >>>>>>>> <http://google.com> > tr-dns.txt >>>>>>>> traceroute 172.217.11.238 > tr-direct.txt >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # NXDomain hijacking? >>>>>>>> dig any >>>>>>>> ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net >>>>>>>> <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net> >>>>>>>>> nxdomain-default.txt >>>>>>>> dig @8.8.8.8 <http://8.8.8.8> any >>>>>>>> ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net >>>>>>>> <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net> >>>>>>>>> nxdomain-google.txt >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> # DNS MITM? >>>>>>>> dig any google.com <http://google.com> > >>>>>>>> dns-default.txt >>>>>>>> dig @8.8.8.8 <http://8.8.8.8> any >>>>>>>> google.com <http://google.com> > >>>>>>>> dns-google.txt >>>>>>>> curl -IX HEAD google.com >>>>>>>> <http://google.com> > http-dns.txt >>>>>>>> curl -IX HEAD -H "Host: google.com >>>>>>>> <http://google.com>" 172.217.11.238 > >>>>>>>> http-direct.txt >>>>>>>> (echo -en "GET / HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: >>>>>>>> google.com <http://google.com>\r\n\r\n"; >>>>>>>> sleep 5;) | openssl s_client -connect >>>>>>>> 172.217.11.238:443 >>>>>>>> <http://172.217.11.238:443> > >>>>>>>> https-direct.txt >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Tim >>>>>>>> Embler <timlists(a)tristarcreations.com >>>>>>>> <mailto:timlists@tristarcreations.com>> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> yeah I would have thought the >>>>>>>> restart would have done it. like you >>>>>>>> even when the browser can't connect, >>>>>>>> pinging it still works fine for me >>>>>>>> too which is why I ruled out dns. I >>>>>>>> have a feeling you tried this but >>>>>>>> have you tried clearing all of your >>>>>>>> google.com <http://google.com> >>>>>>>> cookies/cache? That also temporary >>>>>>>> fixed the issue for me but I have >>>>>>>> log back into anything google which >>>>>>>> makes that a pain. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 5/13/17 1:00 PM, Brian OKeefe wrote: >>>>>>>>> I found many people having this >>>>>>>>> experience on the forums but the >>>>>>>>> efforts that I tried which were >>>>>>>>> solutions for them didn't help me. >>>>>>>>> Like I wrote, no browser that is >>>>>>>>> not in a VM connects to google.com >>>>>>>>> <http://google.com>. My ISP is >>>>>>>>> Cybermesa and they tried to help >>>>>>>>> with DNS settings but that's all >>>>>>>>> fine and was never an issue before >>>>>>>>> anyway. I've tried disabling all >>>>>>>>> add-ons for Firefox and that >>>>>>>>> doesn't make a difference. A >>>>>>>>> restart, which would kill all >>>>>>>>> instances of all apps doesn't help. >>>>>>>>> There are many "fixes" out there. >>>>>>>>> Just none of them fix my problem, >>>>>>>>> which is essentially identical to >>>>>>>>> what other users, like you, >>>>>>>>> experienced. they solved the issue. >>>>>>>>> I cannot. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 05/13/2017 12:50 PM, Tim Embler >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> While this issue is sad I am still >>>>>>>>>> so happy to see someone else >>>>>>>>>> having this issue and it is not >>>>>>>>>> just me. Like you I have searched >>>>>>>>>> everywhere and have not been able >>>>>>>>>> to find anyone else having this >>>>>>>>>> issue. Are you using >>>>>>>>>> Chrome/Chromium? I was using >>>>>>>>>> Chromium at first but when the >>>>>>>>>> issue started I switched to Chrome >>>>>>>>>> which did also have the same >>>>>>>>>> problem. I have not tried using >>>>>>>>>> Firefox for an extended amount of >>>>>>>>>> time to see if that also has this. >>>>>>>>>> If I kill all instances of >>>>>>>>>> Chrome/Chromium it will connect to >>>>>>>>>> google again but after a few hours >>>>>>>>>> the issue comes back where it will >>>>>>>>>> not search/connect to google.com >>>>>>>>>> <http://google.com>. You do have >>>>>>>>>> to make sure you kill all >>>>>>>>>> instances of chrome/chromium for >>>>>>>>>> that temporary fix to work. On a >>>>>>>>>> permanent fix I have no idea at >>>>>>>>>> this point. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5/13/17 12:40 PM, Brian OKeefe >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all. Sorry to have missed >>>>>>>>>>> meetings and not been in contact >>>>>>>>>>> so it's a bit awkward asking for >>>>>>>>>>> help. But I will! >>>>>>>>>>> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 on an >>>>>>>>>>> acer laptop. Until a few weeks >>>>>>>>>>> ago all things google worked fine >>>>>>>>>>> and it was my primary search >>>>>>>>>>> engine. It started slowing down >>>>>>>>>>> trying to connect to google.com >>>>>>>>>>> <http://google.com>, >>>>>>>>>>> www.google.com >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.google.com>, >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.google....you get the >>>>>>>>>>> idea. Eventually, about 2 weeks >>>>>>>>>>> ago it just stopped connecting at >>>>>>>>>>> all. So: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I checked every forum and help >>>>>>>>>>> page I could find. I changed DNS >>>>>>>>>>> servers to open DNS, googleDNS, >>>>>>>>>>> changed all configuration files >>>>>>>>>>> to reflect those changes, many >>>>>>>>>>> command line instructions and on >>>>>>>>>>> and on. None of the Solved marked >>>>>>>>>>> issues solved my problem even >>>>>>>>>>> though the symptoms were the same. >>>>>>>>>>> I run 2 VMs, Ubuntu 16.10 and >>>>>>>>>>> FreeBSD. Both of those machines >>>>>>>>>>> can use google as normal. that >>>>>>>>>>> seems weird to me. >>>>>>>>>>> I can load something like >>>>>>>>>>> groups.google.com >>>>>>>>>>> <http://groups.google.com> and >>>>>>>>>>> then chose apps like gmail, >>>>>>>>>>> drive, photos and several others >>>>>>>>>>> but not calendar or maps (which >>>>>>>>>>> is what I really want). I can use >>>>>>>>>>> all those apps on the VMs though. >>>>>>>>>>> In 16.04 no browser loads google. com >>>>>>>>>>> I can ping google.com >>>>>>>>>>> <http://google.com> with no >>>>>>>>>>> packet loss. >>>>>>>>>>> I'm stumped. >>>>>>>>>>> Help? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Brian >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>> nmglug mailing list >>>>>>>>>>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >>>>>>>>>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>>>>>>>>> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> nmglug mailing list >>>>>>>>>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >>>>>>>>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>>>>>>>> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> nmglug mailing list >>>>>>>>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>>>>>>>> <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >>>>>>>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>>>>>>> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> nmglug mailing list >>>>>>>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >>>>>>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>>>>>> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> nmglug mailing list >>>>>>>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>>>>>>> <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >>>>>>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>>>>>> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> nmglug mailing list nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>>>>>> <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >>>>>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>>>>> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> nmglug mailing list >>>>>>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >>>>>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>>>>> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> _______________________________________________ nmglug >>>>>> mailing list nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>>>>> <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >>>>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>>>> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> nmglug mailing list >>>>>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >>>>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>>>> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> >>>>> -- >>>>> _______________________________________________ nmglug mailing >>>>> list nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >>>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>>> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nmglug mailing list >>>>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>> -- >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nmglug mailing list >>>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nmglug mailing list >>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >> -- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nmglug mailing list >> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >

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Re: [nmglug] nmglug Digest, Vol 162, Issue 22
by Mark “TheMechanicalMan” Waid 16 May '17

16 May '17

Hi! I'm so glad that people like the idea of the abq nmglug. I also love the idea of having main meet ups in Santa Fe. It's gonna be great because we can exchange views info and ideas. that could benefit everyone! -Mark Sent from my iPhone > On May 16, 2017, at 8:22 AM, nmglug-request(a)lists.nmglug.org wrote: > > Send nmglug mailing list submissions to > nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > nmglug-request(a)lists.nmglug.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > nmglug-owner(a)lists.nmglug.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of nmglug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: nmglug Albuquerque subset? (Ted Pomeroy) > 2. Re: No google search (Brian OKeefe) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 08:06:39 -0600 > From: Ted Pomeroy <ted.pome(a)gmail.com> > To: "NMGLUG.org mailing list" <nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org> > Subject: Re: [nmglug] nmglug Albuquerque subset? > Message-ID: > <CAM7Qav-8S1m3XjEy3532pSCDHyhLCk6XJE9Yc1zuEW2+apiN8Q(a)mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > KRT & GLugers, My x200 is running well, still shuts down at odd times with > cause unknown. I am monitoring temp via 'watch -n 15 sensors' and the fan > and temps seem within good operating limits. Since I am not doing any > 'mission critical' activities I will live with this and keep monitoring for > any pattern. A web search showed some others with this problem with free > kernel and this hardware. No definitive answer as far as I saw. Trisquel 7 > running nicely and does everything I need so I think I am free from top to > bottom. > Hope you are well, sorry not to have you up for meetings, but I do > understand. It would be tough if the situation were reversed. > But if we get to meetings off this list we could meet on an annual basis > for a "bash" of some sort. Pun intended. > Thank you, Ted P. > > On Mon, May 15, 2017 at 11:00 PM, ListMaster KRT <listmaster(a)beauxbead.com> > wrote: > >>> On 05/15/2017 10:49 PM, jason schaefer wrote: >>> This is great news! Although, creating a new mailing list and/or website >>> would be unfortunate. Everyone would benefit from more activity and >>> resources on the existing mailing list and the website. It would be a >>> shame to fork those resources. I would be happy to delegate controls as >>> appropriate! >>> We have 19 users on the website (2 users have posted). We have 136 >>> mailing list members (very few of us post). I think it more valuable to >>> stimulate the resources already available rather than start anew. >> >> Hi Jason! Good points, I agree actually. It would be more beneficial to >> have a subsection of the existing infrastructure dedicated to the ABQ group >> instead of creating an new isolated group structure. >> >> If we can get a regular thing going down here in ABQ, I'll be sure to post >> the relevant info on the existing nmglug site at some point. >> >> - KR >> >> -- >> This address is used for list management only. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nmglug mailing list >> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >> >

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New Blood
by Mark Waid 10 May '17

10 May '17

Hello! I live in Albuquerque and just found your group on the internet. I would love to come and attend and see what its all about. Do I just show up with my computer?

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this week I start some mini-courses
by Mark Galassi 13 Apr '17

13 Apr '17

Dear nmglugers, This week I will start teaching mini-courses during the glug meetings. First course will be a primer on plotting and manipulating data files in Python. My 10-hour Python courses are a big part of how I get kids to use GNU/Linux systems, and these new follow-on mini-courses (which will runn from 6:15pm for approx. 1.5 hours) are to keep the momentum going for good principled computing. I will probably often get 2 or 1 or 0 students, and I will often also be able to be glug-ish with y'all. Below is the announcement I sent to the "alumni" of my course: ------------- --> Subject: small mini-courses to add to the "serious programming" course Dear students and parents, I have been putting together a series of small courses that can be taught in a one or one-and-a-half hour session and which can be taken flexibly. These courses are aimed at teaching how to use computer programming to enhance the math and science curriculum in middle and high school. Some mini-courses will go into straight programming and media, like audio and video manipulation. I will be teaching these courses on alternating Thursday evenings (for example, I will do one this week, tomorrow!) Not every alternating Thursday, but I will announce it when I do. Time/place will be 6:15pm at Warehouse 21, though the specific starting time might change. I will announce the starting time. The format is "come when you can": you do not have to commit; drop in if it works for you. Each topic will be different, but we will repeat some of them. In particular, the "plotting and data files" will be a prerequisite for most others. So if you can make it, please show up this Thursday, 2017-04-13, with your GNU/Linux laptop and we will begin with a mini-course on plotting and data files.

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