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Re: [nmglug] Connection to server reset
by Brian O'Keefe 28 Aug '19

28 Aug '19

Problem has gone away so it was LAX On 8/27/19 5:34 PM, okeefe wrote: > > > Hey folks > I'm in LAX airport and trying to use my laptop. I keep getting > connection reset msg, "connection to server rest". Can't load sites or > get mail. Hoping this is due to my use of LAX wifi but if it > continues later at my destination I wonder what is going on. No > similar problem w/ phone. Any ideas? > Thanks, Brian > > Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone. > > _______________________________________________ > nmglug mailing list > nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org --

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[ABQLUG] Next meetup is on 9/3/2019, starts at 6:00 pm
by ABQLUG 28 Aug '19

28 Aug '19

The Albuquerque Linux Users Group will have it's next meeting on September 3rd at 6:00 pm. The meetup will be hosted at Ideas & Coffee. No RSVP necessary. If you would like more information on how to attend, please visit: https://www.abqlug.com/attendee/ Lonnie: I would like to help assist you setting up Linux Mint. I would like to know what version you're trying to use. Also, what step is causing you grief? Please email me directly: community(a)abqlug.com Ray: What hypervisor/virtual machine manager would you want to use? I mostly have experience with VirtualBox. However, I'm in favor of trying out other ones. Gnome Boxes comes to mind. As does QEMU/KVM/Virt-manager. Please email me directly: community(a)abqlug.com Likely my focus will be geared towards answering Linux related questions/issues. If you have anything you would like to ask, please let me know ahead of time! That way I'm not researching the entire meetup. I hope to see you at the next ABQLUG meetup! ~ Jared

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Connection to server reset
by okeefe 27 Aug '19

27 Aug '19

Hey folksI'm in LAX airport and trying to use my laptop. I keep getting connection reset msg, "connection to server rest". Can't load sites or get mail. Hoping this is due to my use of LAX wifi but if it continues later at my destination I wonder what is going on. No similar problem w/ phone. Any ideas?Thanks, BrianSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.

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How to "freeze" rapid moving notice on page to read transient information?
by a 21 Aug '19

21 Aug '19

Hi I have recently reinstalled "no script" (lt has recently changed format ) There is a brief message about 200-300 milliseconds with a notice reading approximately "being directed to a non java script version of the requested site....", Have not be able to press "here" link within the millisecond time allowance. A search of the "no script manual". I do not find an answer to the posed question. Any thoughts, Thanks a

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Video conferencing - set up a Jitsi instance
by LeRoy Diener 16 Aug '19

16 Aug '19

Hi NMGLUG folks, Based on advice from Jonathan, I'm trying to set up a Jitsi instance. First, I can say that I'm not clear about the meaning of "set up an instance"?? I found some instructions on https://jitsi.org/downloads/ Here's what I've tried. The last few lines show some errors. Any suggestions? ll@leno:~$ wget -qO - https://download.jitsi.org/jitsi-key.gpg.key | sudo apt-key add - [sudo] password for ll: OK ll@leno:~$ sudo sh -c "echo 'deb https://download.jitsi.org stable/' > /etc/apt/sources.list.d/jitsi-stable.list" ll@leno:~$ sudo apt-get -y update Get:1 http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates InRelease [94.3 kB] Ign:2 http://debian.osuosl.org/debian stretch InRelease Get:3 http://debian.osuosl.org/debian stretch-updates InRelease [91.0 kB] Get:4 http://security.debian.org stretch/updates InRelease [94.3 kB] Get:5 http://security.debian.org/debian-security stretch/updates/main amd64 Packages [502 kB] Get:6 http://security.debian.org stretch/updates/main amd64 Packages [502 kB] Hit:7 http://debian.osuosl.org/debian stretch Release Get:9 http://debian.osuosl.org/debian stretch-updates/main amd64 Packages.diff/Index [11.1 kB] Get:10 http://debian.osuosl.org/debian stretch-updates/main amd64 Packages 2019-08-14-2019.27.pdiff [339 B] Get:10 http://debian.osuosl.org/debian stretch-updates/main amd64 Packages 2019-08-14-2019.27.pdiff [339 B] Fetched 1,296 kB in 1s (1,122 kB/s) Reading package lists... Done E: The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found. N: Is the package apt-transport-https installed? E: Failed to fetch https://download.jitsi.org/stable/InRelease E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. Thanks in advance. LeRoy -- I am the Love of God, no matter what. LeRoy Diener 213-LEROYIZ 213-537-6949 www.leroydiener.com/

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Re: [nmglug] Poweroff Re: Re: Solved Re: Zombie desktop artifact
by Jonathan Haack 15 Aug '19

15 Aug '19

"toma@debian10kdeHPnb:~$ shutdown -r now bash: shutdown: command not found" You need to run as "sudo" as it is not in your PATH for user: tom JMH On 8/14/19 10:38 PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote: > > Thanks, Jonathan, > > But apparently things have recently changed with the release of Buster. > > Ctrl-Alt-Del still gets you out of the desktop--if you happen to be > still in the desktop--which in my case, I was not. I believe that in > my desperation I tried it, but to be honest, I can't clearly remember. > > At any rate, the first article I happened to look at (the link below > yours) claims that 'shutdown' is no longer with us: > > "Debian 10 has now fully switched to Systemd which means that the > traditional commands to halt or reboot a system like 'shutdown -h now' > or 'reboot' will not work anymore. ..." > > Tom > > toma@debian10kdeHPnb:~$ shutdown -r now > bash: shutdown: command not found > > On 8/14/19 10:08 PM, Jonathan Haack wrote: >> >> You may want to consider the shutdown command, it can be configured >> with much more than the legacy reboot and poweroff commands: >> > https://debian-administration.org/article/89/Shutting_down_your_Debian_mach… > > ^^Posted by Steve > <https://debian-administration.org/users/Steve> on Fri 11 Feb 2005 at > 13:33^^ >> >> Jonathan >> >> On 8/14/19 10:05 PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote: >>> >>> Yep, systemd. This explains it: >>> >>> https://www.faqforge.com/linux/distributions/debian/how-to-shutdown-or-rebo… >>> >>> sudo systemctl poweroff >>> >>> sudo systemctl reboot >>> >>> >>> On 8/14/19 9:30 PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote: >>>> >>>> OK guys, >>>> >>>> I lucked out and stumbled on the fix for my artifact. Turns out >>>> the message on the screen can be removed with the same key >>>> combinations as used to remove widgets *from the panel*, i.e. >>>> 'Alt-D, R'. I think. Now I can't find where I saw that out of >>>> context. Anyway, having done that fixes the problem installing >>>> one-click launchers to the panels too. >>>> >>>> I can go to bed happy tonight because *everything* I've set up is >>>> now working correctly. Definitely KDE Plasma and definitely not >>>> Kubuntu. >>>> >>>> But I still need to figure out how to get terminal >>>> shutdown/reboot/halt installed. Back to all that excellent >>>> documentation in the wikis and the desktop. Must be in there >>>> somewhere. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> On 8/14/19 7:46 PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote: >>>>> Hello NMGLUG, >>>>> >>>>> I've got a two-day old install of Debian 10 with KDE Plasma >>>>> desktop ... >>>>> >>>>> *'ctrl-alt-esc' will kill Plasma (but leave application windows >>>>> running, presumably because they run in different threads) but I >>>>> don't yet know how to restart Plasma from the terminal, and for >>>>> some reason there is no 'shutdown', 'reboot' or 'halt' command >>>>> installed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nmglug mailing list >>>>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nmglug mailing list >>>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nmglug mailing list >>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nmglug mailing list >> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org

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Re: [nmglug] Poweroff Re: Re: Solved Re: Zombie desktop artifact
by Jonathan Haack 14 Aug '19

14 Aug '19

The shutdown command was marked for deprecation way back in 2015, but it was not accepted. I can assure you it is fully functional and all flags are operational as I have been running Buster for some time now. (To be certain, I just tested it for you). With fairness to you, however, I did not notice that you prepended "systemctl" to your commands and read too quickly. Yes, those are the most modern ways of shutting down and rebooting. In looking at it quickly, it seemed you wrote sudo poweroff sudo reboot Which are legacy - and I will be honest - I still use a ton and could care less for non-server machines. I read it so quickly your systemctl looked like sudo to my eyes. With that said, the article you shared is completely full of it ... and like everything with systemd, the designers always symlink all the commands backwards and forwards with few exceptions, so the commands I put above work, shutdown works, and so, of course, does systemctl. This is similar to how: sudo systemctl restart apache2 OR sudo service apache2 restart OR sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart ALL work within systemd ... That was Leondard P's whole philosophy from day 1 (whether you/anyone hates systemd or not). If anyone prefers the old ways only - there is always openRC and devuan.org Sorry for looking over your "systemctl" too quickly and seeing sudo ... my mistake there! On 8/14/19 10:38 PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote: > > Thanks, Jonathan, > > But apparently things have recently changed with the release of Buster. > > Ctrl-Alt-Del still gets you out of the desktop--if you happen to be > still in the desktop--which in my case, I was not. I believe that in > my desperation I tried it, but to be honest, I can't clearly remember. > > At any rate, the first article I happened to look at (the link below > yours) claims that 'shutdown' is no longer with us: > > "Debian 10 has now fully switched to Systemd which means that the > traditional commands to halt or reboot a system like 'shutdown -h now' > or 'reboot' will not work anymore. ..." > > Tom > > toma@debian10kdeHPnb:~$ shutdown -r now > bash: shutdown: command not found > > On 8/14/19 10:08 PM, Jonathan Haack wrote: >> >> You may want to consider the shutdown command, it can be configured >> with much more than the legacy reboot and poweroff commands: >> > https://debian-administration.org/article/89/Shutting_down_your_Debian_mach… > > ^^Posted by Steve > <https://debian-administration.org/users/Steve> on Fri 11 Feb 2005 at > 13:33^^ >> >> Jonathan >> >> On 8/14/19 10:05 PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote: >>> >>> Yep, systemd. This explains it: >>> >>> https://www.faqforge.com/linux/distributions/debian/how-to-shutdown-or-rebo… >>> >>> sudo systemctl poweroff >>> >>> sudo systemctl reboot >>> >>> >>> On 8/14/19 9:30 PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote: >>>> >>>> OK guys, >>>> >>>> I lucked out and stumbled on the fix for my artifact. Turns out >>>> the message on the screen can be removed with the same key >>>> combinations as used to remove widgets *from the panel*, i.e. >>>> 'Alt-D, R'. I think. Now I can't find where I saw that out of >>>> context. Anyway, having done that fixes the problem installing >>>> one-click launchers to the panels too. >>>> >>>> I can go to bed happy tonight because *everything* I've set up is >>>> now working correctly. Definitely KDE Plasma and definitely not >>>> Kubuntu. >>>> >>>> But I still need to figure out how to get terminal >>>> shutdown/reboot/halt installed. Back to all that excellent >>>> documentation in the wikis and the desktop. Must be in there >>>> somewhere. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> On 8/14/19 7:46 PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote: >>>>> Hello NMGLUG, >>>>> >>>>> I've got a two-day old install of Debian 10 with KDE Plasma >>>>> desktop ... >>>>> >>>>> *'ctrl-alt-esc' will kill Plasma (but leave application windows >>>>> running, presumably because they run in different threads) but I >>>>> don't yet know how to restart Plasma from the terminal, and for >>>>> some reason there is no 'shutdown', 'reboot' or 'halt' command >>>>> installed. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nmglug mailing list >>>>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nmglug mailing list >>>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nmglug mailing list >>> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nmglug mailing list >> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org

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Zombie desktop artifact
by Tom Ashcraft 14 Aug '19

14 Aug '19

Hello NMGLUG, I've got a two-day old install of Debian 10 with KDE Plasma desktop on a brand-new 1TB SSD in a two or three year old 15" HP-Notebook with an AMD CPU. This installed via Calamares running from a live, non-free firmware iso, checksum and signature file verified. Mostly so far everything seems robust and beautiful, but there's been considerable pathology with setting up the panels the way I like. Right-clicking on an application in either of the main application menus (I have a cascading menu in the upper panel, and the default menu in the lower panel) *should* show and permit the option of installing a one-click launch icon on the associated panel--but sometimes it does, and other times it doesn't. Also, I had a dictionary widget in the upper panel that was apparently missing one of the supporting files for some reason. In association with a desktop crash, hard powerdown* and/or my eventual removal of the widget, the error message somehow became permanent. See attached screenshot. Any suggestions for how I might best attempt to repair this? Thanks, Tom *'ctrl-alt-esc' will kill Plasma (but leave application windows running, presumably because they run in different threads) but I don't yet know how to restart Plasma from the terminal, and for some reason there is no 'shutdown', 'reboot' or 'halt' command installed.

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Is Zoom an open-source app?
by LeRoy Diener 14 Aug '19

14 Aug '19

Hi NMGLUG folks, My business colleagues want to do video conference calls with me on zoom, from https://zoom.us/ I'm wondering if this is a program which has been reviewed by the Linux community, and if it has been approved as safe to use on Debian. I welcome your responses. LeRoy -- I am the Love of God, no matter what. LeRoy Diener 213-LEROYIZ 213-537-6949 www.leroydiener.com/

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QEMU/KVM; Thunar as root?
by Tom Ashcraft 08 Aug '19

08 Aug '19

I've got Debian 10 XFCE installed to and running from a USB stick. Inside that I have two identical Debian minimal-install server VMs that run under QEMU/KVM behind NAT so that I can have the two talk to each other as a network inside the single computer. This for purposes of safely practicing and experimenting with things like SSH keys and WireGuard without external network or internet access. All, well and good; works great as long as I stick to the same computer and nic with which I created the VMs. The problem is that I have limited storage for snapshots and clones so that currently, if I screw something up or switch computers, experience indicates that I have to create new individual VMs by installing from scratch to start again clean. That takes a long time. So I'm thinking that before I waste too much more time reinventing the wheel every time I go 'round, that I ought to be able to copy clean unused images of my two VMs on another USB stick so that I can just conveniently delete and replace as required. First question: I ought to be able to create an elastically sized VM with QEMU/KVM in a manner similar to how dynamically allocated storage works in VirtualBox so that the image I copy across different USB sticks can be relatively small and quick to copy? Second question: At present I must copy via command line as root or with sudo as Thunar GUI file manager won't give me permission by any means I can discover. I'd like to use Thunar so I can get some visual feedback about copy progress. I ought to be able to run Thunar from the desktop as root somehow, right? As I write I *think* my old laptop with USB 2.0 is somewhere in the midst of copying an 8.0 GB image, but it keeps timing-out into lockscreen, and for all I know something has gone wrong. The USB sticks are warm as a cup of coffee, but the cursor in the terminal is just sitting there without blinking and it's all taking way too long: tom@debian10xfceUSB: /var/lib/libvirt/images$ sudo cp generic-2.qcow2 /media/tom/C58A-66EE/ All hints and advice are welcome. Thanks, Tom

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