January 2019 - nmglug - lists.coactcloud.com

For 31 Jan, tweaking new Debian install on X240 and more?
by LeRoy Diener 29 Jan '19

29 Jan '19

Hi NMGLUG folks, I'm planning to be at the Baking Co on Thu. I'm still tweaking the new Debian install on my X240 to get it set up well to soon become my primary laptop for most tasks. I'm looking forward to help from anyone there in that process. I've discovered that I like the LXDE desktop environment GUI because it is minimalistic and highly customizable. I'm still customizing it. Another project I'd like to begin soon is a fresh install on my Samsung Netbook. Lots of gratitude to everyone who has helped me so far, especially Jason. LeRoy -- I am the Love of God, no matter what. LeRoy Diener 213-LEROYIZ 213-537-6949 www.leroydiener.com/

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tips on becoming a power user?
by Mark Galassi 17 Jan '19

17 Jan '19

GNU/Linux hackers: I'm teaching a segment on becoming a Unix/GNULinux power user. any tips form expert hackers on what's important? As an example from Christopher Gabriel: "'automate as much as possible' and 'track everything with version control' are good generic tips"

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Ready for fresh install on Thu 17 Jan
by LeRoy Diener 17 Jan '19

17 Jan '19

Hi NMGLUG folks, I'm planning to be there on Thu 17 Jan. I recently received in the mail three items: a Lenovo thinkpad X240 laptop, a 1TB SSD pro, and a HDD enclosure. Thank you all, especially Jason, for your help in getting me to where I'm at now. I think that the plan is to removed the platter drive which comes with the X240 and put that into the HDD enclosure to make it into an external HDD and to put the SSD into the laptop and do a fresh install. I'm thinking that it might be a good idea to first test out all of the hardware to make sure it's all working properly with the Windows system which comes on the platter drive first, before tinkering with stuff and not knowing if a problem is related to faulty hardware or a problem with the driver. I'm not sure. I'm looking forward to this project. By the way, I have two other laptops onto which I also want to install Linux. LeRoy -- I am the Love of God, no matter what. LeRoy Diener 213-LEROYIZ 213-537-6949 www.leroydiener.com/

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Anyone want a monitor?
by LeRoy Diener 13 Jan '19

13 Jan '19

Hi NMGLUG folks, I have a monitor to give away, good condition, just old. If you want it, you'll need to let me know ASAP. LeRoy -- I am the Love of God, no matter what. LeRoy Diener 213-LEROYIZ 213-537-6949 www.leroydiener.com/

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Fwd: Google Contacts (from Re: Will curiosity kill my cat? What is this?)
by Tom Ashcraft 12 Jan '19

12 Jan '19

On 1/10/19 10:37 AM, Akkana Peck wrote: > Tom Ashcraft writes: >> I am hooked but not enthusiastic about the new device (Moto G6, >> Ting). Google >> and Android totally creep me out, but I think I've got that aspect as >> constrained as is reasonably possible. (Synced Contacts being the really >> horrible, notable exception.) > You don't need to sync your contacts either, if you don't want to; > Android still works with local/only contacts. Though of course, *we > shouldn't assume that means Google doesn't know our contacts.* > Thanks for the response, Akkana, Though I've tried, I've yet figure out how to actually get the local-contacts-only thing to work. Perhaps you have something specific in mind that due to lack of skill or experience I've yet to discover. My concerns with Google Contacts are: 1) that everything that I could find and try from Google PlayStore, including apps returned when I placed 'F-Droid' in the search fields, all linked back to requiring permissions to access Google Contacts 2) that other people who place my phone number in their own Google Contacts (most people who use Android phones) are already building a map of all my personal associations for Google without my knowledge or permission. Even if I happen to find some way to be stubborn, ornery, or smart enough to get around the situation, there still remains the "tyranny of the default" to which most people will necessarily acquiesce, wittingly or not: Google contacts and PlayStore apps sync automatically if you have an Android phone and a Gmail account. So far, no functional app or strategy I can find *anywhere* (other than memorizing phone numbers) provides a dialer that will work without a Google-associated contacts list. But perhaps transfer of information between Google and independent apps really does only go one way; that is, for some unknown innocuous reason all the apps consistently just have to know what information of mine Google happens to have if I am to be afforded the privilege of using any of them. Really? Why should the functionality of an app have to be conditioned on whether or not I give it permission to access Google Contacts? Why should the app need that if I don't? What is the problem with having separate groups of contacts? Why should the developer of an independent app care? I think for the most part the answers are that Google simply doesn't want such things to happen, that Google is looking at everything I have whether I like it or not. Possibly I could find some way to split-view the screen with both a phone dialer and a .txt file of names and numbers. If that can be done, I don't yet know how. The situation as I currently understand it strikes me as being analogous being able to pull the shades on your living room windows but having no curtains and a ladder outside your bathroom window. Another analogy is that if someone goes on the plaza of the Taos Pueblo with a camera that person will typically be told they can't take any pictures of anyone, but then the person hides behind a bush or something and takes pictures anyway. All of which sucks. Please, someone, tell me how I'm wrong, that I'm making stupid mistakes, that you know things I don't. Tom

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Will curiosity kill my cat? What is this?
by Tom Ashcraft 10 Jan '19

10 Jan '19

Hey NMGLUGers, This scenario is potentially a bit off-topic. But I'm reaching out to you for discussion because I generally like to keep it local and deal with people whom I might actually meet at some point, people with whom I might develop a degree of mutual understanding and personal investment. Call it "community" if you like. After many years of resistance I recently broke down and acquired my first smart phone, a different service provider, and a new number. Time to clean house, too much old information and random vulnerabilities floating around in the ether; lots of weird phishing and robo calls, etc. I am hooked but not enthusiastic about the new device (Moto G6, Ting). Google and Android totally creep me out, but I think I've got that aspect as constrained as is reasonably possible. (Synced Contacts being the really horrible, notable exception.) I'm keeping the old $10 Tracfone "feature phone" around until the renew date so I don't inadvertently cut off old friends and contacts I can't deal with in the near term. In the last couple of months I've received probably three very strange but similar text messages on the Tracfone. Part of the reason I finally decided to make the switch. This is the most recent: 1-400-200-501 FRM:larryet MSG: http:///20kr.Du0.s.h.icu? ee2py neckas he drew short I don't dare type any of it into a browser. Can anyone decode or explain it to me? Is it some kind of hack or is it just kids on drugs or something? Thanks, Tom

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Unpause cups printer.
by a 08 Jan '19

08 Jan '19

Hi Seems I have unpaused my cups printer in the past, not this time,the notification that it is loading the job does not indicate. the command line "unpause cups" is unknown. Seems I had right clicked on a printer icon which brings up choices,that I do not now locate.? What the heck (excuse the peppery language).Thanks Anthony

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Unsure about 3 Jan - stuck in snowy mountains near Mora re: fresh install
by LeRoy Diener 02 Jan '19

02 Jan '19

Hi NMGLUG folks, I hope to be in Santa Fe tomorrow, but I'm not sure. If I'm there, I'll have a new laptop ready for a fresh install. To understand this, see below. I sent a message to the list, but I sent it form a different email address, so it got discarded. The original email is pasted below. Update: After reading the original email below. here's the update. I've heard that all three items have arrived in Santa Fe. All that's needed now is for me to get myself to Santa Fe. I'm in the mountains near Mora, NM. The plow truck got stuck trying to plow the deep snow. I'm not sure when' I'll be able to get out and back to Santa Fe. If I'm in Santa Fe tomorrow, I'll be a at the Baking Co. in the evening, ready for a fresh install. Original email: Ready for fresh install on Thu 3 Jan, I hope Hi NMGLUG folks, I'm hoping to be there on Thu 3 Jan. I just ordered three items: a Lenovo thinkpad X240 laptop, a 1TB SSD pro, and a HDD enclosure. I just got emails this morning that all three should be arriving tomorrow. I'll be leaving today for a silent retreat for a week. You can read about that here http://www.leroydiener.com/spirit/enlightenment-intensive-5-day-new-years-n… if you're interested. A friend will receive the items for me while I'm absent. I'll get them in my hands on 3 Jan when I return to Santa Fe. Thank you all, especially Jason, for your help in getting me to where I'm at now. I think that the plan is to removed the platter drive which comes with the X240 and put that into the HDD enclosure to make it into an external HDD and to put the SSD into the laptop and do a fresh install. I'm thinking that it might be a good idea to first test out all of the hardware to make sure it's all working properly with the Windows system which comes on the platter drive first, before tinkering with stuff and not knowing if a problem is related to faulty hardware or a problem with the driver. I'm not sure. I'm looking forward to this project. By the way, I have two other laptops onto which I also want to install Linux. LeRoy -- I am the Love of God, no matter what. LeRoy Diener 213-LEROYIZ 213-537-6949 www.leroydiener.com/

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Re: [nmglug] freeBSD
by Brian O'Keefe 01 Jan '19

01 Jan '19

Hey Jonathan, Why on earth did it take 12 hours indeed! Primarily because I started with a .vdi on virtualbox and that was useless so then I snagged an .iso and installed that. Many attempts to download ports because of network errors, which I obviously resolved. I didn't want to be root user but have my user account and that was made more difficult by having to get X11 working as I also wanted a GUI and had to set up conf files that weren't automagically set up. (It is a 20 minute install with no GUI!) I had to append several of them, adding glarb from my google searches to them and also using my sad intuitive abilities to determine where these files were or if they needed to be created. Yes and yes. I'm using MATE primarily because of the modifications and additions, again, to files to get Gnome3, according to the wiki (not ready for 11 apparently from the messages on the forums. I'd like to know how you installed it) or KDE, which I don't care for. I also added the guest additions which are not installed as they are for any other guest OS. I only do this to play with a UNIX OS and to learn from that. Linux is not UNIX, as you know, so I'm interested to expand my knowledge base. I have installed and played with Slackware and tried Gentoo but it is not easy (Gentoo). My FOSS ? is to get a sense of it. I'm all FOSS as much as possible but veer from time to time for ease of use. Like, is there a FOSS version of googleearth? No. and I used GE to create maps that I needed for my defense in a felony case against me from Standing Rock. Blew the prosecution away as the maps completely contradicted the affidavits of the "witnesses" and police. I would have had a very difficult time doing that work otherwise. So power to FOSS! But when push comes to shove and there's no real alternative....well? On 12/31/18 2:31 PM, Jonathan Haack wrote: > Brian, > > Why on earth did it take 12 hours? I have freeBSD 12 (recently > upgraded) running on a 2GB Core 2 Duo and it took maybe 30 minutes to > install freeBSD on it (10 and 11). > > I am also curious ... have you thrown a GUI on it? I got GNOME3 on my > instance, but I saw that they finally upgraded to a respectable version > of KDE (not my thing)._[Update - I read closer, you used MATE, but spelled it Mate so I > missed it.] _ > Lastly ... what are you doing with this? And why freeBSD instead of > Slackware or Gentoo? Is it just preference or are there technical reasons. > > Also ... imho, the BSD license is not FOSS. Its OS (open source) - and > I think post-TIVOization, that open source and free software mean > different things now. Sorry if I trigger anyone ... just my opinion. > Free to use to anyone without restriction is different than building a > set of compacts around freedom that guide something's use. > > All the best - feel free to email me atjonathan(a)jonathanhaack.com ... > but I included the list at first since GLUG is this Thursday ... and I > still think freeBSD is cool. > > Jonathan --

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