March 2018 - nmglug - lists.coactcloud.com

Meeting tonight;
by Ted Pomeroy 29 Mar '18

29 Mar '18

NMGLugers, we meet tonight. I don't have any issues to bring. I have done some installs for users recently, but I don't know if any are interested in joining the group. Ted P.

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ROUTER LOGIN
by a 29 Mar '18

29 Mar '18

i HAVE BEEN USING WRT54G TURBOCHARGED BY JASON.OS UBUNTU USING THE PASSWORD CONFIRMED VIA PREFERENCES/SECURITY IS NOT WORKING. PREFER NOT DOING A RESET. THE FUSS IS IN ANTICIPATION OF AN INTERNET SPEED UPGRADE,FROM PHONE 1.33 Mbps TO 50 Mbps GIVE ME YOUR BEST SHOT ON THIS QUESTION AND THANKS ANTHONY

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cloning
by Brian O'Keefe 22 Mar '18

22 Mar '18

Sorry that I wrote CCC for "carbon copy cloner". I meant using dd. Will report back. Brian

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rsync errors
by Brian O'Keefe 22 Mar '18

22 Mar '18

Hi all. Yes, me again. Nothing bad and I have a petty functional system. Palemoon's config files have some parsing errors that stop FF from opening. I was first excited that FF40 opened to the restore window but then the parsing error and I checked the web for solutions. Nothing really helped. Although I'd like to get a FF version running it's not important at this time. My question is the backup, rsync, that Mark, you got set up for me. I check the discs, mounted or not, edit the script that you wrote so that the discs names match and start the backup. All runs well except that I get many errors of "read-only" like this-"rsync: chown "/mnt/mybackups/backup-home-ubuntu/dvdrip-data" failed: Read-only file system (30)". Is this a concern? Seems like there are some important files that aren't getting backed up (this example is not critical). Should I worry? Should I try a different command? Currently: $dmesg | grep sd ..... [38595.548289] EXT4-fs (sdc1): initial error at time 1521418471: ext4_mb_generate_buddy:758 [38595.548298] EXT4-fs (sdc1): last error at time 1521648999: ext4_do_update_inode:4694 $ blkid -o list device fs_type label mount point UUID ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- /dev/sda1 ext4 / ea9f5446-2b36-4ba1-bcf6-ac786107fd58 /dev/sda5 swap [SWAP] 48168ed7-7baf-4d0c-bd12-2c17c9283680 /dev/sdc1 (not mounted) /dev/sdc5 (not mounted) $ nano ./backup-home.sh #! /bin/sh #set -e REMOTE_TOP_DIR=/mnt/mybackups sudo mkdir -p $REMOTE_TOP_DIR sudo mount /dev/sdc1 $REMOTE_TOP_DIR echo "sudo rsync -av /home/ubuntu/ $REMOTE_TOP_DIR/backup-home-ubuntu" sudo rsync -av /home/ubuntu/ $REMOTE_TOP_DIR/backup-home-ubuntu $ ./backup-home.sh mount: /dev/sde1 is already mounted or /mnt/mybackups busy /dev/sde1 is already mounted on / /dev/sde1 is already mounted on /mnt/mybackups sudo rsync -av /home/ubuntu/ /mnt/mybackups/backup-home-ubuntu stalls here or thereabouts if I've quit and started rsync again with the error msg. after I kill the process...... rsync: mkstemp "/mnt/mybackups/backup-home-ubuntu/.mozilla.bakup/pale moon/firefox/psy468mv.default-1422392796863/ScrapBook/data/20070106182433/.main_p_thumb2_586.jpg.aRdi6k" failed: Read-only file system (30) rsync error: received SIGINT, SIGTERM, or SIGHUP (code 20) at io.c(504) [generator=3.1.1] I know that when I completed the first backup that Mark had begun, it finished with errors but now it's hanging. Any ideas? Many thanks, Brian

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my system
by Brian O'Keefe 19 Mar '18

19 Mar '18

I have been poking around with my "new" setup thanks to Mark. My natural fear of losing data, etc. has kept me busy trying to find versions of apps that will run on this lightweight system. It seems that many of the apps I use just run and others run as older versions, like now I have Thunderbird and lightning and all my mail and calendars. That makes me feel so much better given the things I have to attend to before Wed and then surgery Thurs. After I recover enough I can tackle the clean install and getting everything set up. Just wanted all to know and that is what I am so impressed with all of you guys. It's the difference between being toally screwed and feeling far calmer. The last week with my box's issues wasn't fun at all but now I'm shiny. Thanks Brian

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a report on Brian's computer woes
by Mark Galassi 19 Mar '18

19 Mar '18

I met with Brian for a bit this afternoon to look at the X problem he had. I think the main issue is that this machine dates at least from an ubuntu 12.x installation. In the course of all the upgrades and the superposition of window managers and underlying widget libraries the various config files got confused, and some binaries just plain don't run. I started with an immediate snapshot of essential files, then experimented with config files for the various desktop environments and display managers: rsync -av /home/loginname/ /mnt/whereImountedtheexternaldrive/backup-home-loginname The only one I could get to invoke properly was the lxubuntu display manager lxdm, so I installed it, enabled it with a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure any_dm" and picking lxdm. That allowed us to log in properly because it did not inherit weird guest account setups and did not use fancy widget sets. I then recommended that it would not be time-effective to restore all config files (some experiments with --purge and --reinstall did not help). The advice I gave was to use the backup we made and install 16.04 from scratch. I left Brian with a script to pick that rsync up again. Lots of other weird things about the system -- it had been patched up a bit inorganically and possibly off-paradigm for package management, but the data was recoverable. Being a 3.5gig machine it should work well with a new install and firefox quantum.

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Re: [nmglug] No GUI desktop=added info
by okeefe＠cybermesa.com 18 Mar '18

18 Mar '18

Sorry for dribbling this in but I ran #who# and for the first time found that ubuntuguest has a DISPLAY value of (:0) EHO NO VALUE FOR ME, "Ubuntu". I had just run #export DISPLAY="0.0# logged in as me in the command line. However if I ctr+alt+f7 I am back in the ubuntuguest GUI. On Fri, March 16, 2018 6:48 pm, okeefe(a)cybermesa.com wrote: > On Fri, March 16, 2018 11:24 am, s(a)mnoble.net wrote: > Thanks Sam! I had ck'e log files previously with no errors but now I have one. Interestingly this last reboot booted straight into the guest and lightdm (where that wm came from is beyond me!). Can't login to any wm as me though. Here's the log file error: > #(EE) open /dev/fb0: permission denied# > after finding correct syntax for the log file ;) > >> On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 08:32:29AM -0600, okeefe(a)cybermesa.com wrote: >> >> Probably worth looking for clues here: >>> (==) Log file: "home/ubuntu/.localshare/xorg/Xorg.1.log" time, (current > time) >> Can we see something like: >> $grep -2 '(EE)' ~/.localshare/xorg/Xorg.1.log >> >> But my guess is this problem will turn out to be about too many display > managers or >> multiple X sessions or X fighting with wayland or whatever the ubuntu > wayland-competitor was called etc. >> I'd be interested in seeing if any X servers are running. >> Maybe something like: >> $ps ax | grep Xorg >> or even >> $ps ax | grep X >> >> And if you find a process running X it's probably a display manager that > you aren't using, and maybe it can be shut off i.e: >> $sudo /etc/init.d/somedm stop > The only process I could see was Xorg (from "top") > > Thanks so much. I know that all the parts are there but getting them ordered seems to be the issue >> >> -- >> sam >> _______________________________________________ >> nmglug mailing list >> nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org >> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >> >> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > nmglug mailing list > nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org > >

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(no subject)
by okeefe＠cybermesa.com 18 Mar '18

18 Mar '18

On Sat, March 17, 2018 7:51 pm, Mark Galassi wrote: > > Too much in this thread for me to have read it all, but I have > handled > these often. > > The things to do from a virtual console are to logged in as me, ubuntu@ubuntu then ran commands as below: > > sudo apt /etc/init.d/lightdm stop > sudo apt /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop the 2 commands above stopped process & 2 below "command not found" apt isn't in the command so ran without it and dm commands worked > sudo apt /etc/init.d/kdm stop > sudo apt /etc/init.d/xdm stop > > and so on for any *dm. Then you try your startx. You can also > try a > restart on the less flakey display managers, like gdm3 ("sudo > /etc/init.d/gdm3 restart") gdm3 restart failed so ran- "$systemctl status gdm.service: Starting GNOME Display Manager.... gdm.service: Control process exited, code=exited status=1 Failed to start GNOME Display Manager gdm.service: Unit entered failed state gdm.service: Triggering ONFailure=dependencies gdm.service: Failed with result 'exit-code' gdm.service" Service hold-off time over, scheduling restart Stopped GNOME Display Manager gdm.service: Start request repeated too quickly Failed to start GNOME Display manager" "$sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm restart" This opened Graphical display as before but as ubuntuguest autologin and switching back to tty1 is me logged in as ubuntu. So I cannot switch from the graphical XFCE ubuntuguest to a vt as ubuntuguest. I cannot quit the GUI guest and a logout graphically just restarts the GUI. A GUI restart reboots the computer into a black screen with a throbbing "Kubuntu" that vanishes and screen goes grey with no GUI visible. Switching to tty1 and startx says X already running so stop lightdm and restart it. XFCE desktop opens as ubuntuguest (makes sense) > > If you are experimenting with our GUI running you can run "startx -- :2" > (or :3 or higher) to see what happens. > > For this list attaching the full /var/log/Xorg.0.log might be > useful Virtually (!) impossible as I cannot copy the log to this machine from the goofy one and I cannot type it as it is thousands of lines > as well as transcripts of startx with different displays like :2 or :3. > > On thing I'm not clear on is what really happens when you power on the > computer. See above Your original email (I was unable to follow all the > followups) does not make it clear if that first login you do is > graphical or on a virtual text console. > > If the former, then the whole rest of the message is strange > because > starting X from an alread-graphical situation is not the thing to try. > > If that first login is on a virtual text console then your > situation > seems to be that you booted and it came up with vt1 instead of > vt7, but > at the same time automatically logged you in as guest on vt7. I have > never seen that, and it smells of some weird mucking with user > accounts. > Make sure that guest is not set to automatically log in. > > Among other problems with the precision of this problem report is that > you don't mention what desktop is your default, Was Gnome and now, no matter logged in as me or guest, is XFCE but only opens as guest and no graphical or text way to switch user. > and which one comes up > when you go to vt7 and are logged in as guest. XFCE Maybe it's in the many > later messages. > > > >

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No GUI desktop
by okeefe＠cybermesa.com 17 Mar '18

17 Mar '18

I apologize for such a lengthy message but it's the one I posted to ubuntuforums. As the subject states I've lost my GUI apparently because the machine can't connect to X. Here's what I sent and I thank any and all in advance! Just to clarify, I updated some normal updates as prompted by Update Manager about 3 days ago. I'm 16.04 and they were normal security updates. Now when I boot the machine starts in graphic mode as (all hand typed and a real pain in the a**!) [CODE]ubuntu-laptop login:[/CODE] and I can log in as myself (ubuntu) [CODE]ubuntu-laptop login: ubuntu[/CODE] [CODE]Password[/CODE] then I try, which has always worked, [CODE]ubuntu@ubuntu-laptop: ~$ startx[/CODE] returns [CODE]X.Org X Server 1.18.4 Release Date 2016-07-19 X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 Build Operating System: Linux 4.4.0-97-generic x86_64 Ubuntu Current Operating System: Linux ubuntu-laptop 4.4.0-117-generic #141-Ubuntu SMP Tue Mar 13 11:58:07 UTC 2018 x86_64 Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-117-generic root=UUID=ea9f5446-2b36-4ba1-bcfs-ac786107fd58 ro vga=792 quiet splash acpi_osi=Linux vt.handoff=7 Build Date: 13 October 2017 01:57:05PM xorg-server 2:1.18.4-0ubuntu0.7 Current version of pixman: 0.33.6 Before reporting problems check http://wiki.x.org to make sure you have the latest version Markers: [I]various symbols[I] (==) Log file: "home/ubuntu/.localshare/xorg/Xorg.1.log" time, (current time) (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d" waiting for X server to shut down (II) server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.esetting enabled.xinit: connection to X server lost[/CODE] So I get no GUI at all with me as user. However, I have a guest user that starts lightdm all by itself if I (ctrl+alt+f7) I can switch to my user in a terminal but the desktop remains lightdm and as guest. Some apps run, like libreoffice, and most do not like firefox, thunderbird, synaptic

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Re: [nmglug] No GUI desktop
by okeefe＠cybermesa.com 16 Mar '18

16 Mar '18

On Fri, March 16, 2018 11:24 am, s(a)mnoble.net wrote: Thanks Sam! I had ck'e log files previously with no errors but now I have one. Interestingly this last reboot booted straight into the guest and lightdm (where that wm came from is beyond me!). Can't login to any wm as me though. Here's the log file error: #(EE) open /dev/fb0: permission denied# after finding correct syntax for the log file ;) > On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 08:32:29AM -0600, okeefe(a)cybermesa.com wrote: > > Probably worth looking for clues here: >> (==) Log file: "home/ubuntu/.localshare/xorg/Xorg.1.log" time, (current time) > Can we see something like: > $grep -2 '(EE)' ~/.localshare/xorg/Xorg.1.log > > But my guess is this problem will turn out to be about too many display managers or > multiple X sessions or X fighting with wayland or whatever the ubuntu wayland-competitor was called etc. > I'd be interested in seeing if any X servers are running. > Maybe something like: > $ps ax | grep Xorg > or even > $ps ax | grep X > > And if you find a process running X it's probably a display manager that you aren't using, and maybe it can be shut off i.e: > $sudo /etc/init.d/somedm stop The only process I could see was Xorg (from "top") Thanks so much. I know that all the parts are there but getting them ordered seems to be the issue > > -- > sam > _______________________________________________ > nmglug mailing list > nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org > >

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