I think UNM would be best if possible. The students there could benefit, and they have nice facilities. I would also be willing to help with some rides for anyone near me or on the way. I'm near San Mateo and Montgomery if anyone is in need. Sent from my iPhone Sent from my iPhone

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1. Re: nmglug Albuquerque subset? (Tom Ashcraft) 2. Re: No google search (Andres Paglayan)

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Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 15:53:22 -0600 From: Tom Ashcraft <trailerdog234@comcast.net> To: "NMGLUG.org mailing list" <nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> Subject: Re: [nmglug] nmglug Albuquerque subset? Message-ID: <270c7c46-eb0b-1ab6-a3cc-b41e26cd74cd@comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Computer Labs--City of Albuquerque:

http://www.cabq.gov/family/facilities-centers/computer-labs

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On 05/16/2017 03:39 AM, Anthony J. Bentley wrote: Tom Ashcraft writes: It happens that I used to spend a lot of time in Manzano Mesa Multi Generational Center for the inexpensive gym facilities. There used to be and I believe there still is a pretty nicely appointed computer lab in there, as well as other suitable and spacious meeting rooms. I'm pretty sure reservations can be made there for nominal or non-existent fees. Likely the other community centers around town also offer appropriate facilities, though MMMGC is the only one I have any direct knowledge of as for me it was reasonable to bicycle to. My thoughts on locations...

Manzano Mesa would be a great location. It's a very nice facility, close to Central Avenue (public transportation) and I-40. Like Tom, I can bike there easily (and do, often). Has city wifi which in my experience is satisfactory.

Quelab might be a good facility (I've never visited). It has poor bus service, though, and I can't bike there easily. At least it's close to the Big I. Membership is $20/mo, looks like.

UNM surely has some appropriate facility somewhere. It would be nice to try to attract some students from there; I wasn't aware of any Unix clubs during my time as a student (fairly recently). It has excellent bus service, but people with cars will have a hard time finding parking. Network connectivity for non-students is a problem that would need solving.

There are other possibilities in the more startup-y parts downtown, like Fatpipe or the Verge building, maybe...

As was said earlier, no location will be perfect for everyone. I have to say I find the Manzano Mesa community center the most attractive.

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Message: 2 Date: Tue, 16 May 2017 20:19:42 -0600 From: Andres Paglayan <andres@paglayan.com> To: "NMGLUG.org mailing list" <nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> Subject: Re: [nmglug] No google search Message-ID: <921f8846-7f22-99fb-1ccc-a6d2b753b5af@paglayan.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"; Format="flowed"

officially weird then

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On 05/16/2017 08:22 AM, Brian OKeefe wrote: Hi Andres and all, Here at Iconik connected to the network so all I have is the same result.

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On 05/15/2017 01:33 PM, Andres Paglayan wrote:

what happens if you create another user account in the same machine and try from there?

have you tried connecting form another network, like wifi from a coffee? No difference

have you installed any recent extension?

did you create any nftables / iptables rules?

for diagnosis only, what happens if you include one of google's ips on the hosts file?

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On 05/14/2017 09:00 PM, Brian OKeefe wrote: Another bit of info but how useful? I have DraftLogic distance calculator I use in firefox. It uses google maps and layers on that. Google maps load for that site but not as maps.google.com. Here's DraftLogic:https://www.daftlogic.com/projects-advanced-google-maps-distance-calculator..... Anybody know other sites that use google maps I could try? Thanks

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On 05/14/2017 01:21 PM, Max Bond wrote: Could you bring it to the next session? I have a couple ideas, but they're not very friendly to remote debugging.

On Sun, May 14, 2017 at 1:17 PM, Brian OKeefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com <mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com>> wrote:

Also no google earth. App loads but can't search but can zoom in, rotate, etc. Thanks for helping!

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On 05/13/2017 07:16 PM, Max Bond wrote: That is very strange. Does anyone have a hypothesis?

On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 5:26 PM, Brian OKeefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com <mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com>> wrote:

Firefox 53.0.2, tried Chrome, Chromium, Pale Moon, all latest from updates

> On 05/13/2017 05:02 PM, Max Bond wrote: > What I can conclude for the information that was in the > email is that you are able to reach https://google.com > from the terminal. Since you said you weren't able to do > this from the browser, that suggests you were correct & > that the issue is with your browser. > > Could you tell us precisely which browser you're using & > what version? You mentioned using Firefox; have you tried > from Chromium? > > Thanks, > Max > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 4:59 PM, Max Bond > <max.o.bond@gmail.com <mailto:max.o.bond@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hey Brian, > > Pardon me for not explaining better, but those > commands created a series of .txt files (tr-dns.txt, > tr-direct.txt, etc) which have the relevant > information inside them. > > Could you attach those files? The names are at the > end of every line, after the ">". > > On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 4:56 PM, Brian OKeefe > <okeefe@cybermesa.com <mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com>> > wrote: > > thanks Max, > > Here's the terminal output: > > root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# traceroute > google.com <http://google.com> > tr-dns.txt > root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# traceroute > 172.217.11.238 > tr-direct.txt > root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig any > ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net > <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net> > > nxdomain-default.txt > root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig @8.8.8.8 > <http://8.8.8.8> any > ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net > <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net> > > nxdomain-google.txt > root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# > root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# > root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig @8.8.8.8 > <http://8.8.8.8> any > ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net > <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net> > > nxdomain-google.txt > root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig any > google.com <http://google.com> > dns-default.txt > root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# dig @8.8.8.8 > <http://8.8.8.8> any google.com > <http://google.com> > dns-google.txt > root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# curl -IX HEAD > google.com <http://google.com> > http-dns.txt > % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed > Time Time Time Current > Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed > 0 219 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- > --:--:-- --:--:-- 0 > root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# curl -IX HEAD -H > "Host: google.com <http://google.com>" > 172.217.11.238 > http-direct.txt > % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed > Time Time Time Current > Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed > 0 219 0 0 0 0 0 0 --:--:-- > --:--:-- --:--:-- 0 > root@ubuntu-laptop:/home/ubuntu# (echo -en "GET / > HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: google.com > <http://google.com>\r\n\r\n"; sleep 5;) | openssl > s_client -connect 172.217.11.238:443 > <http://172.217.11.238:443> > https-direct.txt > depth=3 C = US, O = Equifax, OU = Equifax Secure > Certificate Authority > verify return:1 > depth=2 C = US, O = GeoTrust Inc., CN = GeoTrust > Global CA > verify return:1 > depth=1 C = US, O = Google Inc, CN = Google > Internet Authority G2 > verify return:1 > depth=0 C = US, ST = California, L = Mountain > View, O = Google Inc, CN = *.google.com > <http://google.com> > verify return:1 > DONE > > > >> On 05/13/2017 02:09 PM, Max Bond wrote: >> Sorry for the chat-style messages, but as a last >> note, I know you tried changing your DNS >> settings, those last tests are meant to check >> for your ISP rewriting DNS responses. It's been >> known to happen. >> >> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Max Bond >> <max.o.bond@gmail.com >> <mailto:max.o.bond@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> (Obviously NXDomain hijacking wouldn't cause >> the problems you're experiencing, that's >> more meant to gauge CyberMesa's willingness >> to tamper with your traffic.) >> >> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 2:06 PM, Max Bond >> <max.o.bond@gmail.com >> <mailto:max.o.bond@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Could you run a couple of commands to >> test for bad behavior by your ISP? >> >> # Middleware boxes? Won't reveal clever >> ones. >> traceroute google.com >> <http://google.com> > tr-dns.txt >> traceroute 172.217.11.238 > tr-direct.txt >> >> # NXDomain hijacking? >> dig any >> ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net >> <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net> >>> nxdomain-default.txt >> dig @8.8.8.8 <http://8.8.8.8> any >> ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net >> <http://ghkdsjfsdfldsfmensdfosdfsdfnwe.net> >>> nxdomain-google.txt >> >> # DNS MITM? >> dig any google.com <http://google.com> > >> dns-default.txt >> dig @8.8.8.8 <http://8.8.8.8> any >> google.com <http://google.com> > >> dns-google.txt >> curl -IX HEAD google.com >> <http://google.com> > http-dns.txt >> curl -IX HEAD -H "Host: google.com >> <http://google.com>" 172.217.11.238 > >> http-direct.txt >> (echo -en "GET / HTTP/1.1\r\nHost: >> google.com <http://google.com>\r\n\r\n"; >> sleep 5;) | openssl s_client -connect >> 172.217.11.238:443 >> <http://172.217.11.238:443> > >> https-direct.txt >> >> >> On Sat, May 13, 2017 at 1:04 PM, Tim >> Embler <timlists@tristarcreations.com >> <mailto:timlists@tristarcreations.com>> >> wrote: >> >> yeah I would have thought the >> restart would have done it. like you >> even when the browser can't connect, >> pinging it still works fine for me >> too which is why I ruled out dns. I >> have a feeling you tried this but >> have you tried clearing all of your >> google.com <http://google.com> >> cookies/cache? That also temporary >> fixed the issue for me but I have >> log back into anything google which >> makes that a pain. >> >>> On 5/13/17 1:00 PM, Brian OKeefe wrote: >>> I found many people having this >>> experience on the forums but the >>> efforts that I tried which were >>> solutions for them didn't help me. >>> Like I wrote, no browser that is >>> not in a VM connects to google.com >>> <http://google.com>. My ISP is >>> Cybermesa and they tried to help >>> with DNS settings but that's all >>> fine and was never an issue before >>> anyway. I've tried disabling all >>> add-ons for Firefox and that >>> doesn't make a difference. A >>> restart, which would kill all >>> instances of all apps doesn't help. >>> There are many "fixes" out there. >>> Just none of them fix my problem, >>> which is essentially identical to >>> what other users, like you, >>> experienced. they solved the issue. >>> I cannot. >>> >>> On 05/13/2017 12:50 PM, Tim Embler >>> wrote: >>>> While this issue is sad I am still >>>> so happy to see someone else >>>> having this issue and it is not >>>> just me. Like you I have searched >>>> everywhere and have not been able >>>> to find anyone else having this >>>> issue. Are you using >>>> Chrome/Chromium? I was using >>>> Chromium at first but when the >>>> issue started I switched to Chrome >>>> which did also have the same >>>> problem. I have not tried using >>>> Firefox for an extended amount of >>>> time to see if that also has this. >>>> If I kill all instances of >>>> Chrome/Chromium it will connect to >>>> google again but after a few hours >>>> the issue comes back where it will >>>> not search/connect to google.com >>>> <http://google.com>. You do have >>>> to make sure you kill all >>>> instances of chrome/chromium for >>>> that temporary fix to work. On a >>>> permanent fix I have no idea at >>>> this point. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 5/13/17 12:40 PM, Brian OKeefe >>>> wrote: >>>>> Hi all. Sorry to have missed >>>>> meetings and not been in contact >>>>> so it's a bit awkward asking for >>>>> help. But I will! >>>>> I'm running Ubuntu 16.04 on an >>>>> acer laptop. Until a few weeks >>>>> ago all things google worked fine >>>>> and it was my primary search >>>>> engine. It started slowing down >>>>> trying to connect to google.com >>>>> <http://google.com>, >>>>> www.google.com >>>>> <http://www.google.com>, >>>>> http://www.google....you get the >>>>> idea. Eventually, about 2 weeks >>>>> ago it just stopped connecting at >>>>> all. So: >>>>> >>>>> I checked every forum and help >>>>> page I could find. I changed DNS >>>>> servers to open DNS, googleDNS, >>>>> changed all configuration files >>>>> to reflect those changes, many >>>>> command line instructions and on >>>>> and on. None of the Solved marked >>>>> issues solved my problem even >>>>> though the symptoms were the same. >>>>> I run 2 VMs, Ubuntu 16.10 and >>>>> FreeBSD. Both of those machines >>>>> can use google as normal. that >>>>> seems weird to me. >>>>> I can load something like >>>>> groups.google.com >>>>> <http://groups.google.com> and >>>>> then chose apps like gmail, >>>>> drive, photos and several others >>>>> but not calendar or maps (which >>>>> is what I really want). I can use >>>>> all those apps on the VMs though. >>>>> In 16.04 no browser loads google. com >>>>> I can ping google.com >>>>> <http://google.com> with no >>>>> packet loss. >>>>> I'm stumped. >>>>> Help? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> >>>>> Brian >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> nmglug mailing list >>>>> nmglug@lists.nmglug.org >>>>> <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >>>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>>> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> nmglug mailing list >>>> nmglug@lists.nmglug.org >>>> <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >>>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>>> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> >>> -- >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> nmglug mailing list >>> nmglug@lists.nmglug.org >>> <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >>> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >>> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nmglug mailing list >> nmglug@lists.nmglug.org >> <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> nmglug mailing list >> nmglug@lists.nmglug.org >> <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> >> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org >> <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> > -- > _______________________________________________ > nmglug mailing list nmglug@lists.nmglug.org > <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org > <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> > > > _______________________________________________ > nmglug mailing list > nmglug@lists.nmglug.org <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org > <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org> -- _______________________________________________ nmglug mailing list nmglug@lists.nmglug.org <mailto:nmglug@lists.nmglug.org> http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org <http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org>

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