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Last night's meeting;
by Ted Pomeroy 11 Oct '24

11 Oct '24

NMGLUGers, We met as scheduled last night at Violet Crown. We had 6 in attendance and had interesting talk. We did a hardware exchange, set a root and user password for a new comer. Matrix and Mastodon were mentioned as well as some off-topic chatter about things far and wide. It was a good meeting. There is some thought of considering another location for our meetings, but no thorough discussions were had. What do you think? Would you come to meetings at a different location? And what are you working on? Ted P.

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Telegram becoming less secure
by LeRoy Diener 27 Sep '24

27 Sep '24

Hi NMGLUG folks, I came across some info which might be good to know about. This link shares the level to which Telegram is now a surveillance and censoring platform following the arrest of its CEO https://q-apps.org/APP/Q-Tube/video/Mental%20Pirate/qtube_vid_telegram-will… I hope this info is helpful. LeRoy -- There is something glorious birthing within all of us. I am the Love of God, no matter what.BSA LeRoy Diener 213-LEROYIZ 213-537-6949 https://leroydiener.com

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Happy 4th of July;
by Ted Pomeroy 03 Jul '24

03 Jul '24

NMGLUGers, I certainly plan to miss out on a meeting on the Holiday. I may opt for a) Pancakes, b) Barbecue, c) fireworks or d) None of the above. It doesn't matter which. I hope you enjoy the holiday. At a future meeting I will bring two printed documents form the 1990's. One on Unix and one on "Zen and the Art of the Internet." The latter is a nice snapshot of the early Internet. Did anybody use Archie? Be well, Ted P

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Mtg. today at 1730; Violet Crown Santa Fe
by Ted Pomeroy 06 Jun '24

06 Jun '24

NMGLUGers, It's a hot day and I will not be going out as it is too hot for me. I hope those who can have a good discussion or install or whatever you may do. Have fun. Thank you, Ted P

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Federal agency warns critical Linux vulnerability being actively exploited | Ars Technica
by Brian O'Keefe 03 Jun '24

03 Jun '24

Is this a problem for someone like me? Are folks aware of it? $ uname -r 5.4.0-182-generic https://arstechnica.com/security/2024/05/federal-agency-warns-critical-linu… --

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Re: [nmglug] More Re: Upgrading Ubuntu 20.04
by Brian O'Keefe 01 Jun '24

01 Jun '24

Hi All, I know I should be asking these ?s and commenting on the Ubuntu support pages as well as others. So don't reply unless you really want to. I think the newish snap pkgs have been installed through upgrades and are the culprits for my issue. Just an FYI. I was attempting to use 'send to' function in Shotwell (default photo app in Ubuntu) and no file was being attached to the email message that popped up. I did a small amount of research and found that snap and flatpak pkgs were causing difficulties. I forced installed an earlier, and then default, version of Shotwell and it works now as it should and always has. So my updates and upgrades pulled the snap pkgs in and installed them. Here's this: '$ chromium --version Chromium 124.0.6367.118 snap' I uninstalled that version and force installed '80.0.3987' version, which is confirmed in synaptic but the 'chrome --version' command remains unchanged and the 'about' in chromium shows the above snap version. I'd like to remove snap versions of pkgs and reinstall apt versions. I think my udpdating and upgrading pulled in all of those snap pkgs making many apt pkgs obsolete. Maybe the source of the vast auto-remove list? From what I read snap causes all sorts of problems and may be the source of some of mine. I know the group are not Ubuntu fans as such but I'd like to find a solution, if possible. I'll keep giving it some time here and there as I have written, this is mainly an inconvenience so far. On 5/31/24 02:14PM, Brian O'Keefe wrote: > > Here's that output: > > $ sudo inxi -F > System: > Host: brian-VivoBook-ASUS-Laptop-X505ZA-F505ZA > Kernel: 5.4.0-182-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: MATE 1.24.0 > Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.6 LTS (Focal Fossa) > Machine: > Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: VivoBook_ASUS Laptop > X505ZA_F505ZA > v: 1.0 serial: K1N0CX08M43402A > Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X505ZA v: 1.0 serial: QCCXKE1JD90305628 > UEFI: American Megatrends v: X505ZA.307 date: 08/30/2018 > Battery: > ID-1: BAT0 charge: 24.0 Wh condition: 24.3/43.0 Wh (57%) > CPU: > Topology: Quad Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 2500U with Radeon Vega Mobile > Gfx > bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 2048 KiB > Speed: 1439 MHz min/max: 1600/2000 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1495 2: > 1374 > 3: 1460 4: 1406 5: 1369 6: 1369 7: 1369 8: 1376 > Graphics: > Device-1: AMD Raven Ridge [Radeon Vega Series / Radeon Vega Mobile > Series] > driver: amdgpu v: kernel > Display: server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: amdgpu resolution: 1280x720~60Hz > OpenGL: renderer: AMD Radeon Vega 8 Graphics (RAVEN DRM 3.35.0 > 5.4.0-182-generic LLVM 12.0.0) > v: 4.6 Mesa 21.2.6 > Audio: > Device-1: AMD Raven/Raven2/Fenghuang HDMI/DP Audio driver: > snd_hda_intel > Device-2: AMD Family 17h HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel > Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-182-generic > Network: > Device-1: Intel Wireless 8265 / 8275 driver: iwlwifi > IF: wlp1s0 state: up mac: 50:76:af:a1:c7:05 > Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet > driver: r8169 > IF: enp2s0 state: down mac: 40:b0:76:3c:9b:f3 > Drives: > Local Storage: total: 715.41 GiB used: 201.05 GiB (28.1%) > ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Crucial model: CT512MX100SSD1 size: 476.94 GiB > ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Micron model: 1100 MTFDDAV256TBN size: 238.47 > GiB > Partition: > ID-1: / size: 233.18 GiB used: 201.04 GiB (86.2%) fs: ext4 dev: > /dev/sdb2 > Sensors: > System Temperatures: cpu: 56.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 56 C > Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 2400 > Info: > Processes: 412 Uptime: 2d 21h 54m Memory: 6.78 GiB used: 3.75 GiB > (55.3%) > Shell: bash inxi: 3.0.38 > > On 5/31/24 01:17PM, Tom Ashcraft wrote: >> I know I said I'd leave you alone, Brian, but I've just got this itch >> in the back of my brain that keeps saying I've seen these things >> before and I know how to deal with them if I can just retrieve and >> dust off the memories. >> >> On 5/31/24 12:21, Brian O'Keefe wrote: >>> >>> Thanks again Tom and sorry that I'm responding before I read the >>> whole thread. But FYI the 'inxi' command returned 'command not found'. >>> >> I noticed that. 'command not found' Indicates only that the package >> has not been installed. Again, not that I think it would >> necessarily be helpful right now, but I'm pretty sure 'inxi' is in >> one of the Ubuntu software repos if you care to take a look at it: >> 'apt list inxi'. If the listing for it shows, then do 'sudo apt >> install inxi'. But you probably already know that, right? >>> >>> Yes, I've checked the BIOS and changed the boot order. The cloned >>> SSD shows up and I change the order so it is first but it still >>> doesn't boot. >>> >> Just a wild guess, but I would imagine that *both* the original drive >> that the computer sees first *and* the new cloned SSD system would >> have to the boot order correctly defined in order for the new SSD >> system to boot? Something to do with or similar to "chain booting" >> used on machines with multiple operating systems? >>> >>> On 5/31/24 09:12AM, Tom Ashcraft wrote: >>>> OK Brian, this morning it's clear to me ... >> > -- --

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Upgrading Ubuntu 20.04
by Brian O'Keefe 01 Jun '24

01 Jun '24

Hello All. This is a long bit of info but I'm hoping someone can advise. Running Ubuntu 20.04 on ASUS laptop, AMD64. I have done an upgrade, "sudo apt upgrade". To run the upgrade I had to uninstall 13 [Package]* i386 as dependencies were broken. That's all fine now though I may need to reinstall some for functionality. However, the "apt upgrade" offers to auto remove many packages which seem, some, important. I'm very reluctant to remove them. Here they are and if anyone can advise I'd really appreciate it. $ sudo apt upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Calculating upgrade... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: brasero-common brave-keyring caribou chromium-common chromium-sandbox folks-common gir1.2-caribou-1.0 gir1.2-evince-3.0 gnome-online-miners gnucash-common gnucash-docs guile-2.2 guile-3.0-libs libaa1:i386 libalgorithm-c3-perl libaqbanking-data libaqbanking44 libavc1394-0:i386 libcaca0:i386 libcairo-gobject2:i386 libcapi20-3:i386 libcaribou-common libcaribou0 libcgi-fast-perl libcgi-pm-perl libclass-c3-perl libclass-c3-xs-perl libclass-data-inheritable-perl libclass-inspector-perl libclass-singleton-perl libcodec2-1.0 libcups2:i386 libcurl3-gnutls:i386 libcurl4:i386 libdate-manip-perl libdatetime-format-strptime-perl libdatetime-locale-perl libdatetime-perl libdatetime-timezone-perl libdatrie1:i386 libdav1d6 libdbi1 libdcmtk16 libdeepin-wm0 libdiscid0 libdrm-amdgpu1:i386 libdrm-intel1:i386 libdrm-nouveau2:i386 libdrm-radeon1:i386 libdrm2:i386 libdv4:i386 libedit2:i386 libev4 libeval-closure-perl libexception-class-perl libexif12:i386 libfaudio0:i386 libfcgi-perl libfile-sharedir-perl libfinance-quote-perl libfltk1.1 libfolks-eds25 libfolks25 libfribidi0:i386 libgbm1:i386 libgdbm-compat4:i386 libgdbm6:i386 libgfbgraph-0.2-0 libgl1:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libglapi-mesa:i386 libglu1-mesa:i386 libglvnd0:i386 libglx-mesa0:i386 libglx0:i386 libgphoto2-port12:i386 libgranite-common libgraphite2-3:i386 libgsm1:i386 libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 libgstreamer-plugins-good1.0-0:i386 libgtk-vnc-2.0-0 libgudev-1.0-0:i386 libgvnc-1.0-0 libgwengui-gtk3-0 libgwenhywfar-data libgwenhywfar79 libharfbuzz0b:i386 libhtml-tableextract-perl libicu66:i386 libiec61883-0:i386 libieee1284-3:i386 libimath29 libimath30 libisofs6 libjasper7 libjbig0:i386 libjpeg-turbo8:i386 libjpeg8:i386 libjson-parse-perl libjte2 libk5crypto3:i386 libkeyutils1:i386 libkrb5-3:i386 libkrb5support0:i386 liblc3-0 liblcms2-2:i386 liblerc3 libllvm12:i386 libltdl7:i386 liblua5.4-0 liblzma-dev libmro-compat-perl libmusicbrainz5-2 libmysqlclient21:i386 libnamespace-autoclean-perl libnettle7:i386 libnghttp2-14:i386 libodbc1:i386 libofx7 liboobs-1-5 libopenal1:i386 libopenexr30 libopenfec libosinfo-1.0-0 libosinfo-bin libosmesa6:i386 libosp5 libparams-validationcompiler-perl libpcap0.8:i386 libpci3:i386 libpciaccess0:i386 libperl5.30:i386 libproxy1-plugin-webkit libproxy1v5:i386 libpsl5:i386 libraw1394-11:i386 libraw20 libroc librtmp1:i386 libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 libsensors5:i386 libsharpyuv0:i386 libshout3:i386 libslang2:i386 libsndio7:i386 libsnmp35:i386 libsodium27 libspecio-perl libspeex1:i386 libspeexdsp-dev libspice-client-gtk-3.0-5 libssh-4:i386 libstb0:i386 libstd-rust-1.70 libstd-rust-1.72 libstd-rust-1.73 libstd-rust-1.74 libtag1v5:i386 libtag1v5-vanilla:i386 libthai0:i386 libtwolame0:i386 libunwind-dev libusb-1.0-0:i386 libuv1-dev libv4l-0:i386 libv4lconvert0:i386 libvirt-glib-1.0-0 libvkd3d-shader1:i386 libvkd3d1:i386 libvpx7 libvpx8:i386 libvulkan1:i386 libwavpack1:i386 libwayland-client0:i386 libwayland-cursor0:i386 libwayland-egl1:i386 libwayland-server0:i386 libwebp7:i386 libwebsockets16 libwireplumber-0.4-0 libwxbase3.0-0v5 libx11-xcb1:i386 libxcb-dri2-0:i386 libxcb-dri3-0:i386 libxcb-glx0:i386 libxcb-present0:i386 libxcb-randr0:i386 libxcb-sync1:i386 libxcb-xfixes0:i386 libxcomposite1:i386 libxcursor1:i386 libxdamage1:i386 libxfixes3:i386 libxi6:i386 libxinerama1:i386 libxkbcommon0:i386 libxml2:i386 libxmlsec1 libxpm4:i386 libxrandr2:i386 libxshmfence1:i386 libxslt1.1:i386 libxss1:i386 libxstring-perl libxv1:i386 libxxf86vm1:i386 libzapojit-0.0-0 libzstd1:i386 libzxingcore1 linux-headers-5.4.0-174 linux-headers-5.4.0-174-generic linux-headers-5.4.0-176 linux-headers-5.4.0-176-generic linux-image-5.4.0-174-generic linux-image-5.4.0-176-generic linux-modules-5.4.0-174-generic linux-modules-5.4.0-176-generic linux-modules-extra-5.4.0-174-generic linux-modules-extra-5.4.0-176-generic mesa-vulkan-drivers:i386 ocl-icd-libopencl1:i386 osinfo-db python3-gnucash system-tools-backends vkd3d-compiler:i386 wine-stable-amd64 wine64 Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. --

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Meetup Thursday, 5/23
by Satsangat Khalsa 25 May '24

25 May '24

Hello, I'm going to bring an older laptop to this week's meeting and upgrade it to Linuxmint 21.3. Maybe, some of you can bring current projects as well. I'm not sure of the exact startup time. Ted, can you chime in on that. Best to you all and hope to see you there, Satsangat Khalsa

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How can I use CLI to find my public IP address in IPv4 vs IPv6?
by LeRoy Diener 13 May '24

13 May '24

Hi NMGLUG folks, I am familiar with using https://ipchicken.com/ to find my public IP address using the browser. I would like to verify my public IP address using CLI as well as the browser. I found this page https://www.tecmint.com/find-linux-server-public-ip-address/ with 4 ways. The web page (last updated July 2023) shows that the results are in IPv4, but my results are in IPv6. I tried all four ways. >From the dig command, I get "bash: dig: command not found" >From the host command, I get crap. When I remove the pipes I get stuff including an IPv6 address. >From the wget and curl commands, Iget an IPv6 address. The IPv6 address from 5 variations of wget and curl are all the same. The IPv6 address from host is different. I like curl ifconfig.me because it is easy to remember. Here's the problem. I would like to verify my public IP address using CLI as well as the browser. >From ipchicken in the broswer, I get IPv4. >From the CLI, I get IPv6. How can I verify my public IP address? In gratitude, LeRoy -- There is something glorious birthing within all of us. I am the Love of God, no matter what.BSA LeRoy Diener 213-LEROYIZ 213-537-6949 https://leroydiener.com

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Meeting tonight;
by Ted Pomeroy 09 May '24

09 May '24

NMGLUGers, We are scheduled for an in person meeting at Violet Crown tonight. My latest project is the re-purposing of another Chromebook, from 2014. It works within the limitations of 16 GB storage, 4 GB ram and Intel Celeron N2840. 64-bit, yes, so it is useful for everyday work and play. I can attend the meeting tonight and show how well Debian 12 is working. I am compiling my steps in the conversion, but that will take a bit of editing and review on my part. Mostly I was guided by Mrchromebox.tech and Ifixit. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Install+CloudReady+(or+other+OS)+on+Toshiba+Ch… My motherboard was a tad different and so finding and removing the write-protect screw took two attempts. I am charging with a special adapter attached with alligator clips, with an appropriate power supply on order. I am repeating the pattern I established years ago of extending the use and life of hardware with free and open source software. Debian is well suited for this. Thank you, Ted P.

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