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upgrade packages with apt
by Brian O'Keefe 19 Jan '24

19 Jan '24

Hello all! I haven't seen any messages from the group so I don't know if it still exists. I miss Ted's summaries and input. So I feel bad that my first communication in a very long time is me carping about a problem and I hope you folks can have tolerance for me! ASUS laptop running Ubuntu 20.04 with Mate desktop I ran a normal upgrade as indicated by the package manager, which is at least every couple of days if not daily. I ran the upgrade and all seemed fine. However, an error symbol popped up in the panel and it noted there was an apt error and to run "apt --fix-broken install". I've done this many times in the past and the dependencies or conflicts are fixed. However, not this time. Here's the output of that command: $ sudo apt --fix-broken install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: brave-keyring libcodec2-1.0 libdav1d6 libdcmtk16 libev4 libimath30 libjasper7 liblc3-0 liblerc3 liblzma-dev libopenfec libraw20 libroc libsodium27 libspeexdsp-dev libunwind-dev libuv1-dev libvpx7 libwebsockets16 libwxbase3.0-0v5 libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5 libzxingcore1 Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. The following additional packages will be installed: libdeflate0:i386 libroc0.3 libtiff5:i386 The following NEW packages will be installed: libdeflate0:i386 libroc0.3 The following packages will be upgraded: libtiff5:i386 1 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded. 6 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0 B/535 kB of archives. After this operation, 1,676 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (Reading database ... 564966 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../libroc0.3_0.3.0+dfsg-3~20.04.sav0_amd64.deb ... Unpacking libroc0.3:amd64 (0.3.0+dfsg-3~20.04.sav0) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libroc0.3_0.3.0+dfsg-3~20 .04.sav0_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libroc.so.0.3', which is also in package libroc:amd64 0.3.0-1~ubuntu20.04 dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe) Preparing to unpack .../libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0_i386.deb ... Unpacking libdeflate0:i386 (1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1 ~20.04.sav0_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/doc/libdeflate0/changelog.Debian.gz', wh ich is different from other instances of package libdeflate0:i386 Preparing to unpack .../libtiff5_4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1_i386.deb ... Unpacking libtiff5:i386 (4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1) over (4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20. 04.sav0) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libtiff5_4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3 +20.04.sav1_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/doc/libtiff5/changelog.Debian.gz', which is different from other instances of package libtiff5:i386 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libroc0.3_0.3.0+dfsg-3~20.04.sav0_amd64.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0_i386.deb /var/cache/apt/archives/libtiff5_4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) No matter what I try I cannot run an upgrade nor even a simple "apt autoremove" $ sudo apt autoremove Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: libpipewire-0.3-modules : Depends: libroc0.3 (>= 0.3.0+dfsg-3~) but it is not installed libtiff5 : Breaks: libtiff5:i386 (!= 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1) but 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav0 is installed libtiff5:i386 : Breaks: libtiff5 (!= 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav0) but 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1 is installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution). I try this this: "$ sudo apt upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: libpipewire-0.3-modules : Depends: libroc0.3 (>= 0.3.0+dfsg-3~) but it is not installed libtiff5 : Breaks: libtiff5:i386 (!= 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1) but 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav0 is installed libtiff5:i386 : Breaks: libtiff5 (!= 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav0) but 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1 is installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution)." It seems like a circular problem of the libtiff5 packages breaking each other. I've considered removing one or the other but the additional packages to be removed scares me as so many packages depend on them. $ sudo apt remove libtiff5 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: argyll : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed blender : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed chafa : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed darktable : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed efax-gtk : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed Recommends: heirloom-mailx but it is not installable enblend : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed enfuse : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed krita : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libatrildocument3 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libcupsfilters1 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libdcmtk14 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libdcmtk16 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libdcmtk17 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libevdocument3-4 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libgd3 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libgdal30 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.10+git190814) but it is not going to be installed libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libgegl-0.4-0 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libgeotiff5 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libgmic1 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libgraphicsmagick-q16-3 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.10) but it is not going to be installed libgxps2 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed liblcms2-utils : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libmagickcore-6.q16-6 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libopenimageio2.1 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libpano13-3 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libpipewire-0.3-modules : Depends: libroc0.3 (>= 0.3.0+dfsg-3~) but it is not going to be installed libpoppler97 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libproj22 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libreoffice-core : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libsane : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libsdl-image1.2 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libspandsp2 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libvtk7.1p : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed lightzone : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed netpbm : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed okular-extra-backends : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed python3-pil : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed qt5-image-formats-plugins : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed tracker-extract : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed xplanet : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed xsane : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution)." So there is nothing I know of to correct this. Can anyone help? Thank you all --

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Re: [nmglug] upgrade packages with apt
by Brian O'Keefe 19 Jan '24

19 Jan '24

Thanks Robert! All help is much appreciated. I don't really know how brave I am. Can't I run a simulation, as it were? I'm sorry for my ignorance! I see this in the man pages for apt: full-upgrade (apt-get(8)) full-upgrade performs the function of upgrade but will remove currently installed packages if this is needed to upgrade the system as a whole. I wonder what the consequences would be for this command? On 1/18/24 09:52PM, Robert Citek wrote: > Greetings, Brian. > > Have a look at this thread: > > https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=2090526&sid=23f03d87cc08befd16… > <https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?p=2090526&sid=23f03d87cc08befd16…> > > I am not suggesting that the solution in the above thread will work > nor that it won't put your system into an even more broken state. > Also, I have no way to test it because my system is not the same as > yours. So, please proceed with caution. > > But if you wish to give it a try, it would seem that you would run this: > > sudo dpkg --force depends -P libtiff5:i386 > > Good luck and let us know what you try and how it goes. > > Regards, > - Robert > > > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 5:30 PM Brian O'Keefe <okeefe(a)cybermesa.com> > wrote: > > Hello all! > > I haven't seen any messages from the group so I don't know if it > still exists. I miss Ted's summaries and input. So I feel bad that > my first communication in a very long time is me carping about a > problem and I hope you folks can have tolerance for me! > > ASUS laptop running Ubuntu 20.04 with Mate desktop > > I ran a normal upgrade as indicated by the package manager, which > is at least every couple of days if not daily. I ran the upgrade > and all seemed fine. However, an error symbol popped up in the > panel and it noted there was an apt error and to run "apt > --fix-broken install". I've done this many times in the past and > the dependencies or conflicts are fixed. However, not this time. > Here's the output of that command: > > $ sudo apt --fix-broken install > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > Correcting dependencies... Done > The following packages were automatically installed and are no > longer required: > brave-keyring libcodec2-1.0 libdav1d6 libdcmtk16 libev4 libimath30 > libjasper7 liblc3-0 liblerc3 liblzma-dev libopenfec libraw20 libroc > libsodium27 libspeexdsp-dev libunwind-dev libuv1-dev libvpx7 > libwebsockets16 > libwxbase3.0-0v5 libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5 libzxingcore1 > Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. > The following additional packages will be installed: > libdeflate0:i386 libroc0.3 libtiff5:i386 > The following NEW packages will be installed: > libdeflate0:i386 libroc0.3 > The following packages will be upgraded: > libtiff5:i386 > 1 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded. > 6 not fully installed or removed. > Need to get 0 B/535 kB of archives. > After this operation, 1,676 kB of additional disk space will be used. > Do you want to continue? [Y/n] > (Reading database ... 564966 files and directories currently > installed.) > Preparing to unpack > .../libroc0.3_0.3.0+dfsg-3~20.04.sav0_amd64.deb ... > Unpacking libroc0.3:amd64 (0.3.0+dfsg-3~20.04.sav0) ... > dpkg: error processing archive > /var/cache/apt/archives/libroc0.3_0.3.0+dfsg-3~20 > .04.sav0_amd64.deb (--unpack): > trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libroc.so.0.3', > which is also in > package libroc:amd64 0.3.0-1~ubuntu20.04 > dpkg-deb: error: paste subprocess was killed by signal (Broken pipe) > Preparing to unpack > .../libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0_i386.deb ... > Unpacking libdeflate0:i386 (1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0) ... > dpkg: error processing archive > /var/cache/apt/archives/libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1 > ~20.04.sav0_i386.deb (--unpack): > trying to overwrite shared > '/usr/share/doc/libdeflate0/changelog.Debian.gz', wh > ich is different from other instances of package libdeflate0:i386 > Preparing to unpack > .../libtiff5_4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1_i386.deb ... > Unpacking libtiff5:i386 (4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1) over > (4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20. > 04.sav0) ... > dpkg: error processing archive > /var/cache/apt/archives/libtiff5_4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3 > +20.04.sav1_i386.deb (--unpack): > trying to overwrite shared > '/usr/share/doc/libtiff5/changelog.Debian.gz', which > is different from other instances of package libtiff5:i386 > Errors were encountered while processing: > /var/cache/apt/archives/libroc0.3_0.3.0+dfsg-3~20.04.sav0_amd64.deb > /var/cache/apt/archives/libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0_i386.deb > /var/cache/apt/archives/libtiff5_4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1_i386.deb > E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) > > No matter what I try I cannot run an upgrade nor even a simple > "apt autoremove" > > $ sudo apt autoremove > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these. > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > libpipewire-0.3-modules : Depends: libroc0.3 (>= 0.3.0+dfsg-3~) > but it is not installed > libtiff5 : Breaks: libtiff5:i386 (!= 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1) > but 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav0 is installed > libtiff5:i386 : Breaks: libtiff5 (!= 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav0) > but 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1 is installed > E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no > packages (or specify a solution). > > I try this this: > > "$ sudo apt upgrade > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these. > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > libpipewire-0.3-modules : Depends: libroc0.3 (>= 0.3.0+dfsg-3~) > but it is not installed > libtiff5 : Breaks: libtiff5:i386 (!= 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1) > but 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav0 is installed > libtiff5:i386 : Breaks: libtiff5 (!= 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav0) > but 4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1 is installed > E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no > packages (or specify a solution)." > > It seems like a circular problem of the libtiff5 packages breaking > each other. I've considered removing one or the other but the > additional packages to be removed scares me as so many packages > depend on them. > > $ sudo apt remove libtiff5 > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these. > The following packages have unmet dependencies: > argyll : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be > installed > blender : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be > installed > chafa : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be > installed > darktable : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to > be installed > efax-gtk : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be > installed > Recommends: heirloom-mailx but it is not installable > enblend : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be > installed > enfuse : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be > installed > krita : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be > installed > libatrildocument3 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not > going to be installed > libcupsfilters1 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not > going to be installed > libdcmtk14 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to > be installed > libdcmtk16 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to > be installed > libdcmtk17 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to > be installed > libevdocument3-4 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not > going to be installed > libgd3 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be > installed > libgdal30 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.10+git190814) but it is not > going to be installed > libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not > going to be installed > libgegl-0.4-0 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going > to be installed > libgeotiff5 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to > be installed > libgmic1 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be > installed > libgraphicsmagick-q16-3 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.10) but it is > not going to be installed > libgxps2 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be > installed > liblcms2-utils : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going > to be installed > libmagickcore-6.q16-6 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is > not going to be installed > libopenimageio2.1 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not > going to be installed > libpano13-3 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to > be installed > libpipewire-0.3-modules : Depends: libroc0.3 (>= 0.3.0+dfsg-3~) > but it is not going to be installed > libpoppler97 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going > to be installed > libproj22 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to > be installed > libreoffice-core : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not > going to be installed > libsane : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be > installed > libsdl-image1.2 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not > going to be installed > libspandsp2 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to > be installed > libvtk7.1p : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to > be installed > libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5 : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not > going to be installed > lightzone : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to > be installed > netpbm : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be > installed > okular-extra-backends : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is > not going to be installed > python3-pil : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to > be installed > qt5-image-formats-plugins : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it > is not going to be installed > tracker-extract : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not > going to be installed > xplanet : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be > installed > xsane : Depends: libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not going to be > installed > E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no > packages (or specify a solution)." > > So there is nothing I know of to correct this. Can anyone help? > > Thank you all > > -- > _______________________________________________ > nmglug mailing list > nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org > --

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more upgrade packages with apt
by Brian O'Keefe 18 Jan '24

18 Jan '24

Hello again and many thanks. I did this and it looks like libtiff6 is also installed though it doesn't show in synaptic # sudo apt-cache search libtiff libtiff-dev - Tag Image File Format library (TIFF), development files libtiff-doc - TIFF manipulation and conversion documentation libtiff5 - Tag Image File Format (TIFF) library libtiff5-dev - Tag Image File Format library (TIFF), development files (transitional package) libtiffxx5 - Tag Image File Format (TIFF) library -- C++ interface gem-plugin-tiff - Graphics Environment for Multimedia - TIFF support libtiff-opengl - TIFF manipulation and conversion tools pngtools - series of tools for PNG (Portable Network Graphics) images python3-libtiff - wrapper to the libtiff library to Python using ctypes (Python 3 version) libtiff-tools - TIFF manipulation and conversion tools libtiff6 - Tag Image File Format (TIFF) library libtiffxx6 - Tag Image File Format (TIFF) library -- C++ interface Thank you all --

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ODroid HC4 SBC for sale
by Art Barnes 09 Jan '24

09 Jan '24

Hi, Happy new year folks. Not sure how folks feel about "for sale" posts but I've got an Odroid HC4 ARM SBC that I'm looking to get rid of for $50. This is the funky little "toaster" server that slots 2 drives in the top. Any takers? Best, -Art

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Telegram vs Telegram-FOSS
by LeRoy Diener 19 Nov '23

19 Nov '23

Hi NMGLUG folks, I'm wondering about using Telegram. So, I"m wondering if anyone in this group has experience with Telegram or Telegram-FOSS. I found this info. https://github.com/Telegram-FOSS-Team/Telegram-FOSS I have CalyxOS on my cell phone. It looks like Telegram-FOSS is available on F-Droid, along with other options, such as Forkgram and Nekogram X. Any ideas? LeRoy -- There is something glorious birthing within all of us. I am the Love of God, no matter what.BSA LeRoy Diener 213-LEROYIZ 213-537-6949 https://leroydiener.com

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Active while Inactive;
by Ted Pomeroy 02 Nov '23

02 Nov '23

NMGLUGers, I have made two posts to the "Latest" tab on the NMGLUG <http://nmglug.org> website. I am using an experimental, liberated school edition Chromebook running Xubuntu. It works, but only up to a point. Oddly, it also could not connect to my email from a public/cafe connection. I will continue to investigate that issue. Same unit, connecting now at home. Anyway, my conclusion is this is a one-trick pony, by which I mean it works, but it does not work fully. Details in my two brief write-ups. The unit is nicely portable, but until I figure out just why I cannot be doing email away from home it shows its limitation all too clearly. Hope your projects are interesting and have better outcomes. Thank you, Ted P.

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Are Session and Wire good to install from the repository or otherwise?
by LeRoy Diener 14 Oct '23

14 Oct '23

Hi NMGLUG folks, I'm wondering about using Session and Wire. So, I'm wondering if anyone in this group has experience with these. I found sites which offer downloads: https://getsession.org/download https://wire.com/en/download/ I also looked in the repository, but did not find them. >From searching online, I found these ideas for installing from the repository: https://deb.oxen.io/ for Session https://installati.one/install-wire-debian-10/ Any ideas? LeRoy -- There is something glorious birthing within all of us. I am the Love of God, no matter what.BSA LeRoy Diener 213-LEROYIZ 213-537-6949 https://leroydiener.com

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Time to resign,
by Ted Pomeroy 14 Oct '23

14 Oct '23

NMGLUGers, I think it is time for me to resign my active membership in the GLUG. Although I keep computing, I am no longer breaking new ground and not interested in being the hobbyist I once was. Oddly though, I am still doing some things. I am writing this on Xubuntu, Gnu/Linux installed on a former student 11 inch Chromebook(tm). The conversion removed all of the former OS after borrowing a script to rewrite the boot system with SeaBios or one of the other Coreboot varieties. Instructions are found at MrChromebox dot tech or other pages on the 'net. No major glitches, no major issues. I am limited by the emmc chip on the board - 16 Gb, but it works. Nice to have a really functional terminal and man pages and such. As well as the freedom to choose my applications and modifications. Used student C-books are cheap because the support for each hardware is only 4 years. A real waste of resources and trash producer for the landfill. I may try to be present at this weeks meeting, I will have nothing to turn in and the recent discussions have gone beyond my level of activity, but it is fun to listen. Be well, Thank you, Ted P.

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Anyone experience with Session or Wire?
by LeRoy Diener 03 Oct '23

03 Oct '23

Hi NMGLUG folks, Does anyone have experience with Session or Wire? https://getsession.org/download https://wire.com/en/download/ I would appreciate any helpful advice? Are these good to use? Are they in the repository? etc. LeRoy -- There is something glorious birthing within all of us. I am the Love of God, no matter what.BSA LeRoy Diener 213-LEROYIZ 213-537-6949 https://leroydiener.com

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We meet,
by Ted Pomeroy 14 Sep '23

14 Sep '23

NMGLUGers, Another meeting today at 1730 local time in Santa Fe. Violet Crown, as noted on the website at NMGLUG dot org. I have other errands today, so I won't make it. I hope you will and that maybe even a new-comer will yet appear. I have no news of Gnu/Linux on my end, nothing broken, nothing new. One of these days I may find a new trick or twist for making it useful for new-comers to switch to the Gnu. With some of the changes on the web and browsers currently this may become a privacy priority for the average user. Thank you, Ted P.

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