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Mtg this week, Apr. 25th, 1730,
by Ted Pomeroy 24 Apr '24

24 Apr '24

NMGLUGers, I plan on making the meeting this week and will bring along the current project: A 2012 laptop, AMD G-T56N cpu, 4 GB ram, 160 GB hdd, OS is Linux Mint 21.3 (virginia) which is the current latest version of this OS. So, eleven years old and working. Barriers to this were the bios password, a 2 GB ssd, yup that's not a typo. A mismatched power cord and years or months of idle storage were also remedied. It is a fully functioning, if slow, unit. No, I would not add an updated ssd, the MoB and cpu set the speed limit. Still, it is functioning, and 64 bit. For all this it provided a few hours of amusement and it works. What are you working on? Anybody still into rescuing not so old machines from their proprietary shackles? Thank you, Ted P

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Debian GNU/Hurd
by Brian O'Keefe 08 Apr '24

08 Apr '24

Howdy I have been installing Debian GNU/Hurd 11 into a QEMU VM. I like the fact that it doesn't use the linux kernel so a further bit down the road to FOSS. Anyway, I have downloaded the 20323 NET.iso from the Debian GNU/Hurd repository and installed it. Once installed it's beautiful and I installed gnumeric and GIMP for testing. On a first reboot I can log in via Debian console and then I run startx to get an XFCE4 desktop. It uses the lightdm. However, there is no way to cleanly shut the VM down and I resort to quitting which means on next boot up I get a fsck as it wasn't shutdown properly. Once that is done and I get a console prompt I login and run startx. I get some wait time and then the menu bar at the top, a dock at the bottom and a black screen with a black X cursor. I've restarted lightdm to no avail. I can provide more details if anyone is interested in this. It sure looks like a very good effort at getting a GNU/Hurd, operable, OS out there. Here's what I've been using for info. BTW, the QEMU img that the website says you can run is true. You can run it, but it is some very weird version of a very antique GNU/Hurd distro. I would love to get this working beyond this X window issue. For now it is essentially a time killer as I've reinstalled it probably 20 times with always the same result. Cheers Brian --

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Time in a bottle?
by Ted Pomeroy 29 Feb '24

29 Feb '24

NMGLUGers, Just caught up with this interesting issue on the brief history of time: debian-takes-proactive-steps-to-address-y2k38 <https://linuxiac.com/debian-takes-proactive-steps-to-address-y2k38/> It seems as if January 1, 1970 will cause a counting error in 2038. An interesting thought, as many of us deal with time and counting and who can forget the Windows issue on Y2K? It was a fun night, New Year's Eve 1999-2000. I never had so many supervisors attending my midnight hours as on that night. A real "Night Manager" only has the power to declare when a property moves to the next day. (It's based on when all the bills are ready.) Luckily there was no system failure back then. Looks like people won't have to worry in 2038, but you never know. See you at Glug this week? There may be other reasons some of us are "marking time." Thank you, Ted P

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UUIDs
by Brian O'Keefe 04 Feb '24

04 Feb '24

Hello All I think I've figured out why my newly cloned external SSD won't boot. It's not mounted on my ubuntu 20.04 system though I can see it in "Disks" or GParted. Since it is a clone the UUIDs are the same and that confuses GRUB, or something. With GParted I can supposedly generate a new UUID for it but that fails with an error and an invitation to visit GParted to try and work that out. So I found a help page at superusers.com and this about setting a new, random UUID. I'm pretty sure that if the external drive didn't have the same UUID as the internal SSD, it would boot and also be mounted when running from my internal SSD. Here's their fix: 12 <https://superuser.com/posts/1159006/timeline> UUIDs are not hardware-specific but stored in the partition's filesystem. That means cloning a disk or partition with|dd|will result in the same UUID. You can assign a new UUID by using: * |tune2fs -U random <device>|(ext2/ext3/ext4) * |xfs_admin -U generate <device>|(xfs) * |reiserfstune -u $(uuidgen) <device>|(reiserfs) * |mkswap -U $(uuidgen) <device>|(swap) Having duplicated UUIDs doesn't necessarily lead to errors. However booting and mounting a device by UUID will become ambiguous and may lead to the wrong device being used. So I ran: sudo tune2fs -U random /dev/sdb2 tune2fs 1.45.5 (07-Jan-2020) This operation requires a freshly checked filesystem. Please run e2fsck -f on the filesystem. I'm reluctant to run the "Please" command as I know fsck can be a powerful tool. Since I can't yet mount the cloned disk I can't see how I can run the command to check it. Any help is greatly appreciated! Oh, I can also see that the cloned drive is a backup when I boot the live thumb drive. Everything is in there. However, in case I need it to restore data it would help if I could mount it.

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cloning upsize
by Brian O'Keefe 03 Feb '24

03 Feb '24

Hello All As a prelude, I am reaching capacity on my internal 256GB SSD and so am wanting to utilize the 1TB SSD I have. I'm running Ubuntu Mint on an ASUS 15" laptop, version 20.04. I successfully cloned my 256GB SSD to a 1TB SSD. I used the entire space as one partition. When I check with GParted I see that is actually the fact. However when I boot the laptop with the 1TB SSD as a USB drive the machine boots from that drive automatically. When I check the BIOS on booting I only see the 1TB SSD as a Boot option if it's connected as a USB drive, not the still installed 256GB SSD. If I unplug the 1TB drive the laptop boots from the internal drive. In the BIOS I can see in each instance the specific drive (the 1TB USB drive or the internal 256GB drive) as the only option to boot as opposed to seeing the external 1TB drive and the internal drive and being able to choose. Why the machine boots automatically from the plugged in 1TB USB drive is an unknown to me. At least the drive is cloned and will boot. Before I replace the internal drive I'd like to have that full 1TB available. If I can make that happen then I can upgrade the distro and replace the internal drive with it. Any ideas on how to get those almost 750GB on the 1TB drive to be accessible? Thanks for any help! --

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cloning away, sort of
by Brian O'Keefe 01 Feb '24

01 Feb '24

Hello All, I'm working on cloning my laptop 250GB SSD to an external SSD of 1TB capacity. As I've done in the past I tried booting from a GParted CD but in this case I can't. In the BIOS there is only the laptop SSD as a boot option. Maybe Ubuntu 20.04 doesn't even recognize the CD? In any case I'm creating a bootable thumb drive and will try that. As you all know, I need to boot from an external drive to use dd to clone the laptop drive. Just an FYI Cheers! --

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Cloning again
by Brian O'Keefe 31 Jan '24

31 Jan '24

Hello All I hope that February turns out to be a good month for all. We need one, yes? Once again NMGLUG has saved my chestnuts, what with my updating and upgrading errors that rendered it impossible to do either. Ted, you were pivotal in getting the bugs out and my setup works just fine. I'm running Ubuntu 20.04 with Mint desktop. I've been itching to upgrade the distro to 22.04 but as usual am afraid that some mess will result. I usually have glitches that I need to fix after an upgrade but I've always worked them out. Now what I'd like to do is clone my 250GB SSD to a 1TB SSD for the added space. I had already cloned my 250GB drive onto the 1TB but never upgraded it as I wanted to do. So I have a several months old cloned drive of 300GB partition and the remainder unformatted space. What I don't know is if I need to reformat the 1TB drive in any manner or just delete the 300GB partition and have a 1 TB, unformatted drive, as it came when new. Or, do I need to delete the partitions and either have all 1TB unformatted or format the 1TB as ext4 or something? Thanks again folks and may the FOSS be with you Brian --

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dvi cable,
by Ted Pomeroy 24 Jan '24

24 Jan '24

NMGLUGers, Does anybody have a spare dvi cable to run frim a mac mini to a Dell monitor? the dvi ports on these are not quite the same, but I would only need the video connection to operate, wipe and perhaps go GnuLinux on the mini. In the meantime I will investigate the hardware to see if it is even worth the effort. Thank you, Ted P

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Re: [nmglug] upgrade packages with apt
by Brian O'Keefe 24 Jan '24

24 Jan '24

Hello All, I just wanted to note that I've run the 'apt --fix-missing install' and only had a few pkgs removed. The massive dump I ended up with has never happened. Also, I added Ubuntu Pro to my software sources and installed it so that I would get security updates for years to come. Other than that and upgrading when I got pkg mgr notifications are the only changes I made. Not to say the pkg mgr may have pulled in some problem. I didn't change any sources otherwise.

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Re: [nmglug] upgrade packages with apt
by Brian O'Keefe 24 Jan '24

24 Jan '24

Hello All, This is a true saga and if no one wants to read the numerous chapters I wouldn't blame you! I made some sort of progress in getting my broken pkgs fixed but I fear at a huge price. Many pkgs are now "not needed" though I have not removed them. I don't know why thry would now not be needed and what that could do. I don't need to autoremove them The info is below. My comments are bold. *After chasing dependencies all over and incorrect pkg versions I bailed and ran the force command:* # dpkg --force depends -P libtiff5:i386 dpkg: libtiff5:i386: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you requested: libsane:i386 depends on libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3). libgd3:i386 depends on libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3). (Reading database ... 564495 files and directories currently installed.) Removing libtiff5:i386 (4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1) ... Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.31-0ubuntu9.14) … # dpkg --force depends -P libtiff5:i386 dpkg: libtiff5:i386: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you requested: libsane:i386 depends on libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3). libgd3:i386 depends on libtiff5 (>= 4.0.3). (Reading database ... 564495 files and directories currently installed.) Removing libtiff5:i386 (4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav1) ... Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.31-0ubuntu9.14) … *And in fact it is gone and is no longer present in the pkg mgr. I ran an upgrade in pkg mgr:* Pkg mgr. Upgrade: To be installed libdeflate0:386 Error: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0_i386.deb: trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/doc/libdeflate0/changelog.Debian.gz', which is different from other instances of package libdeflate0:i386 *At this point the pkg mgr showed no broken pkgs but would not upgrade.* Pkg mgr Terminal output: (Reading database ... 562383 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0_i386.deb ... Unpacking libdeflate0:i386 (1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/doc/libdeflate0/changelog.Debian.gz', which is different from other instances of package libdeflate0:i386 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) A package failed to install. Trying to recover: Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.31-0ubuntu9.14) ... *So I ran this which completed without errors but a huge number of i386* pkgs were deemed unnecessary * # apt --fix-broken install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: brave-keyring gstreamer1.0-plugins-base:i386 libapparmor1:i386 libasound2:i386 libasound2-plugins:i386 libasyncns0:i386 libatomic1:i386 libavahi-client3:i386 libavahi-common-data:i386 libavahi-common3:i386 libbrotli1:i386 libbsd0:i386 libcairo2:i386 libcap2:i386 libcapi20-3:i386 libcdparanoia0:i386 libcodec2-1.0 libcups2:i386 libcurl3-gnutls:i386 libcurl4:i386 libdav1d6 libdbus-1-3:i386 libdcmtk16 libdrm-amdgpu1:i386 libdrm-intel1:i386 libdrm-nouveau2:i386 libdrm-radeon1:i386 libdrm2:i386 libdw1:i386 libedit2:i386 libelf1:i386 libev4 libexif12:i386 libexpat1:i386 libfaudio0:i386 libflac12:i386 libfontconfig1:i386 libfreetype6:i386 libgbm1:i386 libgdbm-compat4:i386 libgdbm6:i386 libgl1:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libglapi-mesa:i386 libglib2.0-0:i386 libglu1-mesa:i386 libglvnd0:i386 libglx-mesa0:i386 libglx0:i386 libgphoto2-port12:i386 libgsm1:i386 libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0:i386 libgstreamer1.0-0:i386 libicu66:i386 libieee1284-3:i386 libimath30 libjack-jackd2-0:i386 libjasper7 libjbig0:i386 libjpeg-turbo8:i386 libjpeg8:i386 libk5crypto3:i386 libkeyutils1:i386 libkrb5-3:i386 libkrb5support0:i386 liblc3-0 liblcms2-2:i386 liblerc3 libllvm12:i386 libltdl7:i386 liblua5.4-0 liblzma-dev libmp3lame0:i386 libmpg123-0:i386 libmysqlclient21:i386 libnettle7:i386 libnghttp2-14:i386 libodbc1:i386 libogg0:i386 libopenal1:i386 libopenfec libopus0:i386 liborc-0.4-0:i386 libosmesa6:i386 libpcap0.8:i386 libpci3:i386 libpciaccess0:i386 libperl5.30:i386 libpixman-1-0:i386 libpng16-16:i386 libpsl5:i386 libpulse0:i386 libraw20 libroc librtmp1:i386 libsamplerate0:i386 libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 libsensors5:i386 libsharpyuv0:i386 libsndfile1:i386 libsndio7:i386 libsnmp35:i386 libsodium27 libspeexdsp-dev libssh-4:i386 libstb0:i386 libstdc++6:i386 libtheora0:i386 libunwind-dev libunwind8:i386 libusb-1.0-0:i386 libuv1-dev libv4l-0:i386 libv4lconvert0:i386 libvisual-0.4-0:i386 libvkd3d-shader1:i386 libvkd3d1:i386 libvorbis0a:i386 libvorbisenc2:i386 libvpx7 libvulkan1:i386 libwayland-client0:i386 libwayland-cursor0:i386 libwayland-egl1:i386 libwayland-server0:i386 libwebp7:i386 libwebsockets16 libwireplumber-0.4-0 libwrap0:i386 libwxbase3.0-0v5 libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5 libx11-6:i386 libx11-xcb1:i386 libxau6:i386 libxcb-dri2-0:i386 libxcb-dri3-0:i386 libxcb-glx0:i386 libxcb-present0:i386 libxcb-randr0:i386 libxcb-render0:i386 libxcb-shm0:i386 libxcb-sync1:i386 libxcb-xfixes0:i386 libxcb1:i386 libxcomposite1:i386 libxcursor1:i386 libxdmcp6:i386 libxext6:i386 libxfixes3:i386 libxi6:i386 libxinerama1:i386 libxkbcommon0:i386 libxml2:i386 libxpm4:i386 libxrandr2:i386 libxrender1:i386 libxshmfence1:i386 libxslt1.1:i386 libxss1:i386 libxxf86vm1:i386 libzstd1:i386 libzxingcore1 mesa-vulkan-drivers:i386 ocl-icd-libopencl1:i386 vkd3d-compiler:i386 Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. *So that upgrade worked with no broken pkgs.* *I installed Wine to see if the i386 pkgs were called and got the same error with libtiff5:i386 and ended up with broken packages. I ran apt upgrade again * $ sudo apt upgrade Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done You might want to run 'apt --fix-broken install' to correct these. The following packages have unmet dependencies: libgd3:i386 : Depends: libtiff5:i386 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not installed libsane:i386 : Depends: libtiff5:i386 (>= 4.0.3) but it is not installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution). brian@brian-VivoBook-ASUS-Laptop-X505ZA-F505ZA:~$ sudo apt --fix-broken install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: brasero-common brave-keyring caribou chromium-common chromium-sandbox folks-common gir1.2-caribou-1.0 gir1.2-evince-3.0 gnome-contacts gnome-online-miners gnucash-common gnucash-docs guile-2.2 guile-3.0-libs libalgorithm-c3-perl libaqbanking-data libaqbanking44 libbrasero-media3-1 libcaribou-common libcaribou0 libcgi-fast-perl libcgi-pm-perl libclass-c3-perl libclass-c3-xs-perl libclass-data-inheritable-perl libclass-inspector-perl libclass-singleton-perl libcodec2-1.0 libdate-manip-perl libdatetime-format-strptime-perl libdatetime-locale-perl libdatetime-perl libdatetime-timezone-perl libdav1d6 libdbi1 libdcmtk16 libdeepin-wm0 libdiscid0 libev4 libeval-closure-perl libexception-class-perl libfcgi-perl libfile-sharedir-perl libfinance-quote-perl libfolks-eds25 libfolks25 libgfbgraph-0.2-0 libgranite-common libgranite5 libgtk-vnc-2.0-0 libgvnc-1.0-0 libgwengui-gtk3-0 libgwenhywfar-data libgwenhywfar79 libhtml-tableextract-perl libimath30 libisofs6 libjasper7 libjson-parse-perl libjte2 liblc3-0 liblerc3 liblua5.4-0 liblzma-dev libmro-compat-perl libmusicbrainz5-2 libnamespace-autoclean-perl libofx7 liboobs-1-5 libopenfec libosinfo-1.0-0 libosinfo-bin libosp5 libparams-validationcompiler-perl libproxy1-plugin-webkit libraw20 libroc libsodium27 libspecio-perl libspeexdsp-dev libspice-client-gtk-3.0-5 libturbojpeg libunwind-dev libuv1-dev libvirt-glib-1.0-0 libvpl2 libvpx7 libwebsockets16 libwireplumber-0.4-0 libwxbase3.0-0v5 libxmlsec1 libxstring-perl libzapojit-0.0-0 libzxingcore1 osinfo-db python3-gnucash system-tools-backends Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. The following additional packages will be installed: libdeflate0:i386 libtiff5:i386 The following NEW packages will be installed: libdeflate0:i386 libtiff5:i386 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 5 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0 B/244 kB of archives. After this operation, 728 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (Reading database ... 561861 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0_i386.deb ... Unpacking libdeflate0:i386 (1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1 ~20.04.sav0_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/doc/libdeflate0/changelog.Debian.gz', wh ich is different from other instances of package libdeflate0:i386 Selecting previously unselected package libtiff5:i386. Preparing to unpack .../libtiff5_4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav2_i386.deb ... Unpacking libtiff5:i386 (4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav2) ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) * * *I tried fixing this with the pkg mgr broken filter to no avail so again ran:* $ sudo apt --fix-broken install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Correcting dependencies... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: brasero-common brave-keyring caribou chromium-common chromium-sandbox folks-common gir1.2-caribou-1.0 gir1.2-evince-3.0 gnome-contacts gnome-online-miners gnucash-common gnucash-docs guile-2.2 guile-3.0-libs libalgorithm-c3-perl libaqbanking-data libaqbanking44 libbrasero-media3-1 libcaribou-common libcaribou0 libcgi-fast-perl libcgi-pm-perl libclass-c3-perl libclass-c3-xs-perl libclass-data-inheritable-perl libclass-inspector-perl libclass-singleton-perl libcodec2-1.0 libdate-manip-perl libdatetime-format-strptime-perl libdatetime-locale-perl libdatetime-perl libdatetime-timezone-perl libdav1d6 libdbi1 libdcmtk16 libdeepin-wm0 libdiscid0 libev4 libeval-closure-perl libexception-class-perl libfcgi-perl libfile-sharedir-perl libfinance-quote-perl libfolks-eds25 libfolks25 libgfbgraph-0.2-0 libgranite-common libgranite5 libgtk-vnc-2.0-0 libgvnc-1.0-0 libgwengui-gtk3-0 libgwenhywfar-data libgwenhywfar79 libhtml-tableextract-perl libimath30 libisofs6 libjasper7 libjson-parse-perl libjte2 liblc3-0 liblerc3 liblua5.4-0 liblzma-dev libmro-compat-perl libmusicbrainz5-2 libnamespace-autoclean-perl libofx7 liboobs-1-5 libopenfec libosinfo-1.0-0 libosinfo-bin libosp5 libparams-validationcompiler-perl libproxy1-plugin-webkit libraw20 libroc libsodium27 libspecio-perl libspeexdsp-dev libspice-client-gtk-3.0-5 libturbojpeg libunwind-dev libuv1-dev libvirt-glib-1.0-0 libvpl2 libvpx7 libwebsockets16 libwireplumber-0.4-0 libwxbase3.0-0v5 libxmlsec1 libxstring-perl libzapojit-0.0-0 libzxingcore1 osinfo-db python3-gnucash system-tools-backends Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. The following additional packages will be installed: libdeflate0:i386 libtiff5:i386 The following NEW packages will be installed: libdeflate0:i386 libtiff5:i386 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. 5 not fully installed or removed. Need to get 0 B/244 kB of archives. After this operation, 728 kB of additional disk space will be used. Do you want to continue? [Y/n] (Reading database ... 561861 files and directories currently installed.) Preparing to unpack .../libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0_i386.deb ... Unpacking libdeflate0:i386 (1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1 ~20.04.sav0_i386.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite shared '/usr/share/doc/libdeflate0/changelog.Debian.gz', wh ich is different from other instances of package libdeflate0:i386 Selecting previously unselected package libtiff5:i386. Preparing to unpack .../libtiff5_4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav2_i386.deb ... Unpacking libtiff5:i386 (4.4.0-4ubuntu3.3+20.04.sav2) ... Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libdeflate0_1.19-0ubuntu1~20.04.sav0_i386.deb E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) $ sudo apt --fix-broken install Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: brasero-common brave-keyring caribou chromium-common chromium-sandbox folks-common gir1.2-caribou-1.0 gir1.2-evince-3.0 gnome-contacts gnome-online-miners gnucash-common gnucash-docs guile-2.2 guile-3.0-libs libalgorithm-c3-perl libaqbanking-data libaqbanking44 libbrasero-media3-1 libcapi20-3:i386 libcaribou-common libcaribou0 libcgi-fast-perl libcgi-pm-perl libclass-c3-perl libclass-c3-xs-perl libclass-data-inheritable-perl libclass-inspector-perl libclass-singleton-perl libcodec2-1.0 libcups2:i386 libcurl3-gnutls:i386 libcurl4:i386 libdate-manip-perl libdatetime-format-strptime-perl libdatetime-locale-perl libdatetime-perl libdatetime-timezone-perl libdav1d6 libdbi1 libdcmtk16 libdeepin-wm0 libdiscid0 libdrm-amdgpu1:i386 libdrm-intel1:i386 libdrm-nouveau2:i386 libdrm-radeon1:i386 libdrm2:i386 libedit2:i386 libev4 libeval-closure-perl libexception-class-perl libexif12:i386 libfaudio0:i386 libfcgi-perl libfile-sharedir-perl libfinance-quote-perl libfolks-eds25 libfolks25 libgbm1:i386 libgdbm-compat4:i386 libgdbm6:i386 libgfbgraph-0.2-0 libgl1:i386 libgl1-mesa-dri:i386 libglapi-mesa:i386 libglu1-mesa:i386 libglvnd0:i386 libglx-mesa0:i386 libglx0:i386 libgphoto2-port12:i386 libgranite-common libgranite5 libgsm1:i386 libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 libgtk-vnc-2.0-0 libgvnc-1.0-0 libgwengui-gtk3-0 libgwenhywfar-data libgwenhywfar79 libhtml-tableextract-perl libicu66:i386 libieee1284-3:i386 libimath30 libisofs6 libjasper7 libjbig0:i386 libjpeg-turbo8:i386 libjpeg8:i386 libjson-parse-perl libjte2 libk5crypto3:i386 libkeyutils1:i386 libkrb5-3:i386 libkrb5support0:i386 liblc3-0 liblcms2-2:i386 liblerc3 libllvm12:i386 libltdl7:i386 liblua5.4-0 liblzma-dev libmro-compat-perl libmusicbrainz5-2 libmysqlclient21:i386 libnamespace-autoclean-perl libnettle7:i386 libnghttp2-14:i386 libodbc1:i386 libofx7 liboobs-1-5 libopenal1:i386 libopenfec libosinfo-1.0-0 libosinfo-bin libosmesa6:i386 libosp5 libparams-validationcompiler-perl libpcap0.8:i386 libpci3:i386 libpciaccess0:i386 libperl5.30:i386 libproxy1-plugin-webkit libpsl5:i386 libraw20 libroc librtmp1:i386 libsdl2-2.0-0:i386 libsensors5:i386 libsharpyuv0:i386 libsndio7:i386 libsnmp35:i386 libsodium27 libspecio-perl libspeexdsp-dev libspice-client-gtk-3.0-5 libssh-4:i386 libstb0:i386 libturbojpeg libunwind-dev libusb-1.0-0:i386 libuv1-dev libv4l-0:i386 libv4lconvert0:i386 libvirt-glib-1.0-0 libvkd3d-shader1:i386 libvkd3d1:i386 libvpl2 libvpx7 libvulkan1:i386 libwayland-client0:i386 libwayland-cursor0:i386 libwayland-egl1:i386 libwayland-server0:i386 libwebp7:i386 libwebsockets16 libwireplumber-0.4-0 libwxbase3.0-0v5 libx11-xcb1:i386 libxcb-dri2-0:i386 libxcb-dri3-0:i386 libxcb-glx0:i386 libxcb-present0:i386 libxcb-randr0:i386 libxcb-sync1:i386 libxcb-xfixes0:i386 libxcomposite1:i386 libxcursor1:i386 libxfixes3:i386 libxi6:i386 libxinerama1:i386 libxkbcommon0:i386 libxml2:i386 libxmlsec1 libxpm4:i386 libxrandr2:i386 libxshmfence1:i386 libxslt1.1:i386 libxss1:i386 libxstring-perl libxxf86vm1:i386 libzapojit-0.0-0 libzstd1:i386 libzxingcore1 mesa-vulkan-drivers:i386 ocl-icd-libopencl1:i386 osinfo-db python3-gnucash system-tools-backends vkd3d-compiler:i386 Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. *So now I have no errors but upgrading pulls in the *libtiff:i386 *pkg and then I again cannot do any apt command without the dependency error and so I start all over with: * dpkg --force depends -P libtiff5:i386 *and eventually end up chasing the package in the pkg mgr, using the 'fix broken packages' option. Then back to the terminal and running all of the above again. So now I have tens and tens of obsolete packages but I'm loathe to remove them. I 'm also loathe to try an upgradeand get the same errors again. I don't want to reboot or shutdown for fear of what I've created. * *If any of you read through all of this then you're saints!* *Brian * _______________________________________________ > > nmglug mailing list > nmglug(a)lists.nmglug.org > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org > --

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