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Success, sort of, re Clementine iTunes Search in Debian Buster
by Tom Ashcraft 16 May '20

16 May '20

In some respects I guess I could call this a case of "be careful what you wish for". Thanks largely to input from Mars and Akkana I was able to succeed in my goal of obtaining a build of Clementine in which the Add Podcast > iTunes Search functionality works properly. I thought all I really wanted was to get something relatively commonplace to work in the manner it should with respect to particular things I happened to have need of. But now I suspect all the failures and unintended consequences endured will eventually prove to be more valuable than my initial desired outcome. I learned a lot of things along the way. I got my head wrapped about about half-way around the apt_preferences man page and went through four iterations of attempts to build different versions of Clementine from source. The one that finally built to the point of completion was the generic current version on git hub. Apparently the developer has little interest in "the debian way". Only about half the dependencies he listed as required happened to be available from Debian repos and installed. Nevertheless, Clementine proceeded to build and do everything I currently feel a need to do with it. A bunch of the streaming services I have little or no interest in don't work. Not that that matters much in any way I can justify. But aesthetically, anything sloppy or half-complete hanging around always *bugs* me. Of course the one thing I didn't try yet was to actually completely follow through and expand onhttps://wiki.debian.org/BuildingTutorial. That is, I didn't try to build the current debian version I was trying to replace, the one with the bug, from source and see if I could actually try a little to fix it and maybe learn something worthwhile about debugging. That's a subject I know exactly zero about. So I may decide I have to continue and find out. The thing I definitely did right was to do all my experimenting on a live USB installation that I created a few weeks ago with mkusb. This was good because not only is it a really bomb-proof way of sandboxing any booby traps, vulnerabilities and non-free blobs, but the USB stick also runs on multiple machines and has a large sharable cross-platform data partition. I didn't have to dedicate any disk space and put time and effort into creating a virtual machine. (Though that would be a good way to do things too.) Also, now I'm thinking that though it lacks some convenience, I can always use any OS on a live USB stick with sharable data partition and a sound version of Clementine as a general work-around to satisfy my desires, even if I can't completely fix Clementine for my Debian laptops. But I do think if I can't ever get a Debian version of Clementine to work exactly right that I'd like to try a VM headless server and lxc/lxd/Docker container as a possible middle way. If anyone has any thoughts or opinions about any of this please let me know. Thanks, Tom

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How to safely replace a Buster/stable package with a Stretch/oldstable package and maintain it?
by Tom Ashcraft 14 May '20

14 May '20

Greetings Debianistas, Clementine audio/music player version 'clementine/bionic 1.3.1+git276-g3485bbe43+dfsg-1.1build1 amd64' used by Ubuntu 18.04 flavors works perfectly for my particular needs. However, on two older laptops for which I most value Clementine's abilities for downloading podcasts, the slightly newer/different Clementine version 'clementine/stable 1.3.1+git609-g623a53681+dfsg-1 amd64', which is supplied by the default repos for Debian 10 stable/Buster and antiX 19 (a lightweight Debian derivative), always fails with respect to the Music > Add Podcast > iTunes Search option. I currently spend about half my time living in a location where the only access to the internet I have is through occasional infrequent use of WiFi supplied by the public library (now closed and only through an office window and apparently restricted hours due to Covid 19). So I really want to be able to conveniently grab new episodes of particular podcasts using these two reliable and infrequently updated Debian machines. By way of additional context and perspective, my Android/F-Droid phone app, AntennaPod, which has an Add Podcast > iTunes Search functionality similar to Clementine, always works fine (though with more limited speed and storage capability than the laptops.) So, although I won't entirely rule it out, I don't expect the iTunes Search problem lies directly or solely with iTunes or the current anti-competitive (and perhaps understandable) machinations of Apple. It happens that Clementine version '1.3.1+git276-g3485bbe43+dfsg-1', the version provided for Ubuntu 18.04 flavors (less the .1build1 suffix), appears to be exactly the same as that listed at https://packages.debian.org/stretch/clementine as the version formerly provided by Debian for oldstable/Stretch. So, in theory it seems probable that I ought to be able to simply replace the Buster version of Clementine with the Stretch version so as to obtain the full functionality I have under Ubuntu in Debian. People usually seem to complain that the problem with Debian is the default preference for older packages, but in this case the problem seems to be exactly the other way around. General Linux and Ubuntu information I've found suggests that it is a reasonable possibility to restrict the use of certain packages to older or specific versions of software, but I've yet to locate official Debian sources that provide direct confirmation or clearly applicable instruction for my case. All the wiki.debian.org instructions seem to be geared to using the occasional newer 'sid' or 'testing' version in 'stable' installations. Of course, if I can get the Stretch version of Clementine installed in Buster, I want to do it in the safest and most maintainable way so that nothing is liable to break. Any advice or suggestions? Thanks, Tom

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Are you still around Mars?
by Brian O'Keefe 12 May '20

12 May '20

Hi if you still check this list. It's Brian O'Keefe and you have helped me several times on Gnu/Linux questions. But now I have a totally unrelated questions regarding the grounding of household, copper water lines and the creation of pinhole leaks. I can, if you can, communicate through my email address if you are willing to touch base with me on the question. I've seen your DeLapp.com page and your codes page for electrical. Please respond if you are able to. Thanks in advance Brian --

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[ABQLUG] May Meetup is live!
by ABQLUG 05 May '20

05 May '20

https://live.abqlug.com/MayMeetup All you should need is a modern web browser. If you use an app on a mobile app, set the server to live.abqlug.com I expect the "party" to end around 8:00 pm. ~ Jared

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[ABQLUG] Meetup for May will be virtual
by ABQLUG 05 May '20

05 May '20

Hey everyone, The ABQ Linux User Group will have a virtual meetup on May 5th 2020 at ~6:00 pm. Currently the Jitsi-meet server is offline. But on Tuesday, you can join directly here: https://live.abqlug.com/MayMeetup If you are on a desktop or laptop, all you need is a current web browser. For more information on how to use a mobile device, or if you have issues using the Jitsi-meet app. Please visit: https://www.abqlug.com/attendee/ Remember to change your name when you join. You can change your name by going to the bottom right (triple dots) and selecting "me". If you're interested in how I set this up, please visit: https://gitlab.com/ABQLUG/Install-Jitsi-Meet-with-Docker-Compose Perhaps we'll probably talk about the new Ubuntu 20.04 and Fedora 32 releases. But overall no topics are officially scheduled. Hope to see you all there! Jared

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NM Community BBB Project
by Jonathan Haack 01 May '20

01 May '20

NM GLUG, I just now completed set up on the NM Community BBB project. For now, please do not share the link outside NM GLUG. I am concerned about load and scale, of course, if this is spread too wide. Input on load balancing and scale is appreciated. With that said, however, please test it and *try* to break it. I do not want to release this to general teacher/student/club use until it is properly tested and who better than the NM Gluggers! Here is the link: https://meet.freeschools.club (Again, for now, demo rooms (like Jitsi) are open ... so just enter a name and conference away - please send feedback back to me and/or LeRoy (see above) as we meet and discuss scale.) Kindly, Jonathan Haack haacksnetworking.com

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RDP issue, launches now only from terminal, not script
by LeRoy Diener 27 Apr '20

27 Apr '20

Hi NMGLUG folks, The freeRDP I have is something that Jason has helped me with many times. I've learned quite a bit about how to troubleshoot it myself, but now I have a new issue. Here's the situation: My KVM interface is working. I double-click a file remote.sh. If I clcik "execute in terminal", I get an error message about a missing child process. In Win, I run ipconfig. Output is the same as always. All good. In terminal, I run nmap. 3389 rdp port is open. All good. I run rdesktop from terminal. It opened, but no login credentials. (Credentials are in remote.sh file.) In terminal, I type command to run remote.sh Results: loading channel rdpdr loading channel rdpsnd loading channel cliprdr connected to 192.168.122.17:3389 Loading device service printer (static) Loading device service drive (static) registered device #1: ll-home (type=8 id=1) Then, the RDP opens and works fine. When I shut down Win, the RDP disappears. In the terminal, the following three lines appear, and I get a prompt. ERRINFO_LOGOFF_BY_USER (0x0000000C): The disconnection was initiated by the user logging off his or her session on the server. Failed to check FreeRDP file descriptor So, something is different, not working as expected. Any ideas? For reference, here's the error message I've gotten in the past. loading channel rdpdr loading channel rdpsnd loading channel cliprdr connected to 192.168.122.17:3389 The host key for 192.168.122.17 has changed @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ @ WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @ @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY! Someone could be eavesdropping on you right now (man-in-the-middle attack)! It is also possible that a host key has just been changed. The fingerprint for the host key sent by the remote host is c3:00:0c:08:a7:2e:14:77:1b:df:80:88:f4:68:52:cc:25:ea:01:7b Please contact your system administrator. Add correct host key in /home/ll/.config/freerdp/known_hosts to get rid of this message. Host key for 192.168.122.17 has changed and you have requested strict checking. Host key verification failed. tls_connect: certificate not trusted, aborting. Error: protocol security negotiation or connection failure The solution in those times was to re-create the known_hosts file. The current circumstance is different, cuz the RDP is sorta working, as shown above. Please advise me how to resolve this. Thanks, LeRoy -- I am the Love of God, no matter what. LeRoy Diener 213-LEROYIZ 213-537-6949 www.leroydiener.com/

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Jonathan, I think I have space on my VPS
by LeRoy Diener 26 Apr '20

26 Apr '20

Hi NMGLUG folks, This message is in response to Jonathan's request for bandwidth for a BigBlueButton instance. Jonathan, I think I have extra space on my VPS. I think it could work for this purpose. Let's talk. LeRoy -- I am the Love of God, no matter what. LeRoy Diener 213-LEROYIZ 213-537-6949 www.leroydiener.com/

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Jitsi vs. BigBlueButton
by Jonathan Haack 24 Apr '20

24 Apr '20

Hi all, Thanks for all the talk about Jitsi - yes, it is very easy and secure to use and great free software. However, I am also a teacher - and group work, or breakout rooms in conferencing systems is *essential* to many of the lessons I teach online. For that reason, I reached out to Dave Lane, President of NZ Open Source Society, and also head sys admin at OERu.org. He suggested I run BigBlueButton, and allowed me to test his self-hosted instance last night: https://bbb.nzoss.nz/b BigBlueButton's community server cannot handle classes over an hour due to increased load, so my question to everyone here is ... is there interest in the NM GLUG community for setting up a community BigBlueButton instance? The server requirements are actually fairly beefy: https://docs.bigbluebutton.org/2.2/install.html#minimum-server-requirements Of course, this project is FLOSS or I would not share it (LGPL licensed): https://bigbluebutton.org/open-source-license/ Anyway, if someone can provide the host and bandwidth and give me shell/key access, I can do all the set up DNS, etc., and server configuration, mail relay for accounts for us, etc. I just don't have enough space on my home server or another spare host - and putitng this in a VPS would be $$$$$$ as fuck. Other ideas also welcome as a solution to this ... Thanks all, Jonathan Haack

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Meetup today??
by Ted Pomeroy 18 Apr '20

18 Apr '20

NMGLers, We should be meeting up tonight at 5:30 or so. Please will some volunteer set up the meeting and send out a link and the actual preferred time to start. As for topics, I would like some ideas on how to get some of my friends to use rdp or other system to allow me to help them with computer things. The trouble will be they are at a distance and not up to using commandline to add any settings or applications. Just a thought. I am using the meet up process to see what some are doing, but gaining control remotely on an ad hoc basis safely would help. Thank you, Ted P.

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