NMGLugers, We meet again this week and if we see the same group we can follow up on several in-process repairs to software and installation. There might be a chance to "tweak" a new install to get the most appropriate software for a new user. We can look at upgrade issues for Ubuntu, and I have an 18.04 Live/Install usb to show off. I did some reading and at one place it said the Upgrade of older systems is applied at the xx.04.1 level, that is in the first numbered release after the initial release. July 1st is the time these have appeared in the past, give or take some leeway. Anybody can write to the list and add comments or issues to address at the meeting on Thursday. Thank you, Ted P.
Thanks Ted. What time at Baking Co.? I may try to get there if I can get a lift from my wife who has a similar time slot when she's out, 6-7:30. I'm still dealing with my OS breakdown and have done a few things. Briefly, I cloned my SSD to a new SSD and then analysed it with TestDisk (comes with Parted Magic and is a bootable CD). Found a ton of deleted folders that disappeared when I did the update as per the urging of Update Manager and toasted my 1.04 OS. TestDisk shows all the file structure in a partition, my Linux primary, both existing and the deleted folders that it can find. I had lost a major folder I named "Miscellany" (lots of important files over the years) and it shows up but has no files. My Music folder also shows up as not deleted but has no content either. There are hundreds of deleted files, of course as they haven't yet been overwritten (or they wouldn't show up). So I've lost at least the content of 2 major folders or the folder itself and apparently many others since I can't run Ubuntu Desktop. Which are what I can't begin to know and trying to restore them all so that Ubuntu 16.04 works again would be difficult beyond measure! TestDisk is a pretty amazing tool and I could show it off. It gives one the chance to recover those deleted folders and copy and then restore them. I have so many deleted files that I have no idea how I would ever determine which are ones I want/need to add to a new 18.04 install. I also want to migrate all of my browser, email, etc. from my hacked firefox and thunderbird (had to to get them to work with my address books, bookmarks, etc. that the newest versions don't see for some reason). If I can make it I can bring the Parted Magic disk, my new USB 1TB drive that has my cloned SSD on it. The rsync that you helped me with Mark, is not bootable nor readable with test disk except with Parted Magic file browser (no deleted folders or files though as only TestDisk does that) and not from my current ldxe desktop file browser. It shows up as a bootable image but I get a grub error and a rescue prompt, with which I know not what to do. So a long story and I'm not even sure i can manage the meeting but I'd like to try. Brian On 05/21/2018 06:02 PM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
NMGLugers, We meet again this week and if we see the same group we can follow up on several in-process repairs to software and installation. There might be a chance to "tweak" a new install to get the most appropriate software for a new user. We can look at upgrade issues for Ubuntu, and I have an 18.04 Live/Install usb to show off. I did some reading and at one place it said the Upgrade of older systems is applied at the xx.04.1 level, that is in the first numbered release after the initial release. July 1st is the time these have appeared in the past, give or take some leeway. Anybody can write to the list and add comments or issues to address at the meeting on Thursday. Thank you, Ted P. _______________________________________________ nmglug mailing list nmglug@lists.nmglug.org http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org
Brian, I look forward to meeting you. I arrive at the Baking Co. at about 5pm, meeting officially starts at 5:30. It runs till 7pm when the cafe closes. Several members adjourn to the Second St. brewery on 2nd St., I usually pass on that and go home. I will not comment on the listing you have of things to reveal and repair. I choose to make my computing simpler and move on to making things work adequately; then carefully save my own files, yielding to progress the OS and applications. The higher level administrators at our meeting will likely be able to comment and assist you. See you Thursday. Thank you, Ted P. On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
Thanks Ted. What time at Baking Co.? I may try to get there if I can get a lift from my wife who has a similar time slot when she's out, 6-7:30. I'm still dealing with my OS breakdown and have done a few things. Briefly, I cloned my SSD to a new SSD and then analysed it with TestDisk (comes with Parted Magic and is a bootable CD). Found a ton of deleted folders that disappeared when I did the update as per the urging of Update Manager and toasted my 1.04 OS. TestDisk shows all the file structure in a partition, my Linux primary, both existing and the deleted folders that it can find. I had lost a major folder I named "Miscellany" (lots of important files over the years) and it shows up but has no files. My Music folder also shows up as not deleted but has no content either. There are hundreds of deleted files, of course as they haven't yet been overwritten (or they wouldn't show up). So I've lost at least the content of 2 major folders or the folder itself and apparently many others since I can't run Ubuntu Desktop. Which are what I can't begin to know and trying to restore them all so that Ubuntu 16.04 works again would be difficult beyond measure! TestDisk is a pretty amazing tool and I could show it off. It gives one the chance to recover those deleted folders and copy and then restore them. I have so many deleted files that I have no idea how I would ever determine which are ones I want/need to add to a new 18.04 install. I also want to migrate all of my browser, email, etc. from my hacked firefox and thunderbird (had to to get them to work with my address books, bookmarks, etc. that the newest versions don't see for some reason). If I can make it I can bring the Parted Magic disk, my new USB 1TB drive that has my cloned SSD on it. The rsync that you helped me with Mark, is not bootable nor readable with test disk except with Parted Magic file browser (no deleted folders or files though as only TestDisk does that) and not from my current ldxe desktop file browser. It shows up as a bootable image but I get a grub error and a rescue prompt, with which I know not what to do. So a long story and I'm not even sure i can manage the meeting but I'd like to try.
Brian
On 05/21/2018 06:02 PM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
NMGLugers, We meet again this week and if we see the same group we can follow up on several in-process repairs to software and installation. There might be a chance to "tweak" a new install to get the most appropriate software for a new user. We can look at upgrade issues for Ubuntu, and I have an 18.04 Live/Install usb to show off. I did some reading and at one place it said the Upgrade of older systems is applied at the xx.04.1 level, that is in the first numbered release after the initial release. July 1st is the time these have appeared in the past, give or take some leeway. Anybody can write to the list and add comments or issues to address at the meeting on Thursday. Thank you, Ted P. _______________________________________________ nmglug mailing list nmglug@lists.nmglug.org http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org
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I look forward to mtg. too Ted. Getting there at 5:30 is no problem but I wouldn't get picked up until 7:40 or so, so I'm not sure that will work. If it's nice I can wait outside. My wife's thing is on Early street if someone could give me a lift there that would be most welcome. Don't worry about engaging in my fiasco but I have learned a lesson, though I don't know how I'll resolve it and getting back to a simpler OS set-up as you describe and still have at least the most important apps that I use thru Wine or otherwise. And what's this about backups? We don't need no stinking backups! (Hah). I know that the rsync was supposed to create a snapshot of my system and all in it. I know that you're not dealing with this sort of thing but it's good info none the less. It seems that the update not only deleted folders it resurrected some back into my OS and they pop up in my file browser after I had deleted them! I wonder what went on with that update. what a scramble. Anyway, if I can make it perhaps someone can at least be amused! I'll try to make it, we'll see. Brian On 05/22/2018 08:16 AM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
Brian, I look forward to meeting you. I arrive at the Baking Co. at about 5pm, meeting officially starts at 5:30. It runs till 7pm when the cafe closes. Several members adjourn to the Second St. brewery on 2nd St., I usually pass on that and go home. I will not comment on the listing you have of things to reveal and repair. I choose to make my computing simpler and move on to making things work adequately; then carefully save my own files, yielding to progress the OS and applications. The higher level administrators at our meeting will likely be able to comment and assist you. See you Thursday. Thank you, Ted P.
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
Thanks Ted. What time at Baking Co.? I may try to get there if I can get a lift from my wife who has a similar time slot when she's out, 6-7:30. I'm still dealing with my OS breakdown and have done a few things. Briefly, I cloned my SSD to a new SSD and then analysed it with TestDisk (comes with Parted Magic and is a bootable CD). Found a ton of deleted folders that disappeared when I did the update as per the urging of Update Manager and toasted my 1.04 OS. TestDisk shows all the file structure in a partition, my Linux primary, both existing and the deleted folders that it can find. I had lost a major folder I named "Miscellany" (lots of important files over the years) and it shows up but has no files. My Music folder also shows up as not deleted but has no content either. There are hundreds of deleted files, of course as they haven't yet been overwritten (or they wouldn't show up). So I've lost at least the content of 2 major folders or the folder itself and apparently many others since I can't run Ubuntu Desktop. Which are what I can't begin to know and trying to restore them all so that Ubuntu 16.04 works again would be difficult beyond measure! TestDisk is a pretty amazing tool and I could show it off. It gives one the chance to recover those deleted folders and copy and then restore them. I have so many deleted files that I have no idea how I would ever determine which are ones I want/need to add to a new 18.04 install. I also want to migrate all of my browser, email, etc. from my hacked firefox and thunderbird (had to to get them to work with my address books, bookmarks, etc. that the newest versions don't see for some reason). If I can make it I can bring the Parted Magic disk, my new USB 1TB drive that has my cloned SSD on it. The rsync that you helped me with Mark, is not bootable nor readable with test disk except with Parted Magic file browser (no deleted folders or files though as only TestDisk does that) and not from my current ldxe desktop file browser. It shows up as a bootable image but I get a grub error and a rescue prompt, with which I know not what to do. So a long story and I'm not even sure i can manage the meeting but I'd like to try.
Brian
On 05/21/2018 06:02 PM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
NMGLugers, We meet again this week and if we see the same group we can follow up on several in-process repairs to software and installation. There might be a chance to "tweak" a new install to get the most appropriate software for a new user. We can look at upgrade issues for Ubuntu, and I have an 18.04 Live/Install usb to show off. I did some reading and at one place it said the Upgrade of older systems is applied at the xx.04.1 level, that is in the first numbered release after the initial release. July 1st is the time these have appeared in the past, give or take some leeway. Anybody can write to the list and add comments or issues to address at the meeting on Thursday. Thank you, Ted P. _______________________________________________ nmglug mailing list nmglug@lists.nmglug.org http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org
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Hi Brian, I look forward to seeing you. I can wait with you and if the weather is nice it should be no problem, as I don't drive I cannot offer a ride, but others might as Early St. is so close by our meeting. By the way a Backup is a copy of the files you don't want to lose. So if you are trying to recover music and miscellany, you had files that might have been copied to a backup drive and verified safe before upgrade. You can be bold about this, but one is always warned that a good backup will save you time in the long run. A fresh install is always a good way to move forward. It's a new environment adjusted to the changes in computing and the Internet, ready to improve the computing experience. By the way I will bring the release notes from 16.04 as an example of known changes and problems with a new release. Thank you, Ted P. On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
I look forward to mtg. too Ted. Getting there at 5:30 is no problem but I wouldn't get picked up until 7:40 or so, so I'm not sure that will work. If it's nice I can wait outside. My wife's thing is on Early street if someone could give me a lift there that would be most welcome.
Don't worry about engaging in my fiasco but I have learned a lesson, though I don't know how I'll resolve it and getting back to a simpler OS set-up as you describe and still have at least the most important apps that I use thru Wine or otherwise. And what's this about backups? We don't need no stinking backups! (Hah). I know that the rsync was supposed to create a snapshot of my system and all in it. I know that you're not dealing with this sort of thing but it's good info none the less. It seems that the update not only deleted folders it resurrected some back into my OS and they pop up in my file browser after I had deleted them! I wonder what went on with that update. what a scramble.
Anyway, if I can make it perhaps someone can at least be amused!
I'll try to make it, we'll see.
Brian
On 05/22/2018 08:16 AM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
Brian, I look forward to meeting you. I arrive at the Baking Co. at about 5pm, meeting officially starts at 5:30. It runs till 7pm when the cafe closes. Several members adjourn to the Second St. brewery on 2nd St., I usually pass on that and go home. I will not comment on the listing you have of things to reveal and repair. I choose to make my computing simpler and move on to making things work adequately; then carefully save my own files, yielding to progress the OS and applications. The higher level administrators at our meeting will likely be able to comment and assist you. See you Thursday. Thank you, Ted P.
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
Thanks Ted. What time at Baking Co.? I may try to get there if I can get a lift from my wife who has a similar time slot when she's out, 6-7:30. I'm still dealing with my OS breakdown and have done a few things. Briefly, I cloned my SSD to a new SSD and then analysed it with TestDisk (comes with Parted Magic and is a bootable CD). Found a ton of deleted folders that disappeared when I did the update as per the urging of Update Manager and toasted my 1.04 OS. TestDisk shows all the file structure in a partition, my Linux primary, both existing and the deleted folders that it can find. I had lost a major folder I named "Miscellany" (lots of important files over the years) and it shows up but has no files. My Music folder also shows up as not deleted but has no content either. There are hundreds of deleted files, of course as they haven't yet been overwritten (or they wouldn't show up). So I've lost at least the content of 2 major folders or the folder itself and apparently many others since I can't run Ubuntu Desktop. Which are what I can't begin to know and trying to restore them all so that Ubuntu 16.04 works again would be difficult beyond measure! TestDisk is a pretty amazing tool and I could show it off. It gives one the chance to recover those deleted folders and copy and then restore them. I have so many deleted files that I have no idea how I would ever determine which are ones I want/need to add to a new 18.04 install. I also want to migrate all of my browser, email, etc. from my hacked firefox and thunderbird (had to to get them to work with my address books, bookmarks, etc. that the newest versions don't see for some reason). If I can make it I can bring the Parted Magic disk, my new USB 1TB drive that has my cloned SSD on it. The rsync that you helped me with Mark, is not bootable nor readable with test disk except with Parted Magic file browser (no deleted folders or files though as only TestDisk does that) and not from my current ldxe desktop file browser. It shows up as a bootable image but I get a grub error and a rescue prompt, with which I know not what to do. So a long story and I'm not even sure i can manage the meeting but I'd like to try.
Brian
On 05/21/2018 06:02 PM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
NMGLugers, We meet again this week and if we see the same group we can follow up on several in-process repairs to software and installation. There might be a chance to "tweak" a new install to get the most appropriate software for a new user. We can look at upgrade issues for Ubuntu, and I have an 18.04 Live/Install usb to show off. I did some reading and at one place it said the Upgrade of older systems is applied at the xx.04.1 level, that is in the first numbered release after the initial release. July 1st is the time these have appeared in the past, give or take some leeway. Anybody can write to the list and add comments or issues to address at the meeting on Thursday. Thank you, Ted P. _______________________________________________ nmglug mailing list nmglug@lists.nmglug.org http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org
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Thanks Ted. I know to well the importance of backing up and I used to use SpiderOak, an online backup service. Then I went to me trying to be disciplined but that went by the wayside. I never imagined (who does until it's too late?) that a prompted upgrade would delete and recreate files all by itself plus bork my OS into unworkability? I'd done upgrades (just package, not OS, though I did those for every LTR release too and sometimes with major fixes needed but I always succeeded) forever and never had anything like this or anything at all happen. Other than losing my data (and regaining some I didn't want) I would have an interest in why this happened but I'll guess that's pretty pointless even for a learning experience. Thanks for offering to wait and perhaps someone can give me a lift. My wife wants me to watch her singing group so I'd catch 15 min. or so. Brian On 05/22/2018 09:56 AM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:.
Hi Brian, I look forward to seeing you. I can wait with you and if the weather is nice it should be no problem, as I don't drive I cannot offer a ride, but others might as Early St. is so close by our meeting. By the way a Backup is a copy of the files you don't want to lose. So if you are trying to recover music and miscellany, you had files that might have been copied to a backup drive and verified safe before upgrade. You can be bold about this, but one is always warned that a good backup will save you time in the long run. A fresh install is always a good way to move forward. It's a new environment adjusted to the changes in computing and the Internet, ready to improve the computing experience. By the way I will bring the release notes from 16.04 as an example of known changes and problems with a new release. Thank you, Ted P.
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
I look forward to mtg. too Ted. Getting there at 5:30 is no problem but I wouldn't get picked up until 7:40 or so, so I'm not sure that will work. If it's nice I can wait outside. My wife's thing is on Early street if someone could give me a lift there that would be most welcome.
Don't worry about engaging in my fiasco but I have learned a lesson, though I don't know how I'll resolve it and getting back to a simpler OS set-up as you describe and still have at least the most important apps that I use thru Wine or otherwise. And what's this about backups? We don't need no stinking backups! (Hah). I know that the rsync was supposed to create a snapshot of my system and all in it. I know that you're not dealing with this sort of thing but it's good info none the less. It seems that the update not only deleted folders it resurrected some back into my OS and they pop up in my file browser after I had deleted them! I wonder what went on with that update. what a scramble.
Anyway, if I can make it perhaps someone can at least be amused!
I'll try to make it, we'll see.
Brian
On 05/22/2018 08:16 AM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
Brian, I look forward to meeting you. I arrive at the Baking Co. at about 5pm, meeting officially starts at 5:30. It runs till 7pm when the cafe closes. Several members adjourn to the Second St. brewery on 2nd St., I usually pass on that and go home. I will not comment on the listing you have of things to reveal and repair. I choose to make my computing simpler and move on to making things work adequately; then carefully save my own files, yielding to progress the OS and applications. The higher level administrators at our meeting will likely be able to comment and assist you. See you Thursday. Thank you, Ted P.
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
Thanks Ted. What time at Baking Co.? I may try to get there if I can get a lift from my wife who has a similar time slot when she's out, 6-7:30. I'm still dealing with my OS breakdown and have done a few things. Briefly, I cloned my SSD to a new SSD and then analysed it with TestDisk (comes with Parted Magic and is a bootable CD). Found a ton of deleted folders that disappeared when I did the update as per the urging of Update Manager and toasted my 1.04 OS. TestDisk shows all the file structure in a partition, my Linux primary, both existing and the deleted folders that it can find. I had lost a major folder I named "Miscellany" (lots of important files over the years) and it shows up but has no files. My Music folder also shows up as not deleted but has no content either. There are hundreds of deleted files, of course as they haven't yet been overwritten (or they wouldn't show up). So I've lost at least the content of 2 major folders or the folder itself and apparently many others since I can't run Ubuntu Desktop. Which are what I can't begin to know and trying to restore them all so that Ubuntu 16.04 works again would be difficult beyond measure! TestDisk is a pretty amazing tool and I could show it off. It gives one the chance to recover those deleted folders and copy and then restore them. I have so many deleted files that I have no idea how I would ever determine which are ones I want/need to add to a new 18.04 install. I also want to migrate all of my browser, email, etc. from my hacked firefox and thunderbird (had to to get them to work with my address books, bookmarks, etc. that the newest versions don't see for some reason). If I can make it I can bring the Parted Magic disk, my new USB 1TB drive that has my cloned SSD on it. The rsync that you helped me with Mark, is not bootable nor readable with test disk except with Parted Magic file browser (no deleted folders or files though as only TestDisk does that) and not from my current ldxe desktop file browser. It shows up as a bootable image but I get a grub error and a rescue prompt, with which I know not what to do. So a long story and I'm not even sure i can manage the meeting but I'd like to try.
Brian
On 05/21/2018 06:02 PM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
NMGLugers, We meet again this week and if we see the same group we can follow up on several in-process repairs to software and installation. There might be a chance to "tweak" a new install to get the most appropriate software for a new user. We can look at upgrade issues for Ubuntu, and I have an 18.04 Live/Install usb to show off. I did some reading and at one place it said the Upgrade of older systems is applied at the xx.04.1 level, that is in the first numbered release after the initial release. July 1st is the time these have appeared in the past, give or take some leeway. Anybody can write to the list and add comments or issues to address at the meeting on Thursday. Thank you, Ted P. _______________________________________________ nmglug mailing list nmglug@lists.nmglug.org http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org
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I can give you a lift to Early, but I usually confuse that with Late;) On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
I look forward to mtg. too Ted. Getting there at 5:30 is no problem but I wouldn't get picked up until 7:40 or so, so I'm not sure that will work. If it's nice I can wait outside. My wife's thing is on Early street if someone could give me a lift there that would be most welcome.
Don't worry about engaging in my fiasco but I have learned a lesson, though I don't know how I'll resolve it and getting back to a simpler OS set-up as you describe and still have at least the most important apps that I use thru Wine or otherwise. And what's this about backups? We don't need no stinking backups! (Hah). I know that the rsync was supposed to create a snapshot of my system and all in it. I know that you're not dealing with this sort of thing but it's good info none the less. It seems that the update not only deleted folders it resurrected some back into my OS and they pop up in my file browser after I had deleted them! I wonder what went on with that update. what a scramble.
Anyway, if I can make it perhaps someone can at least be amused!
I'll try to make it, we'll see.
Brian
On 05/22/2018 08:16 AM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
Brian, I look forward to meeting you. I arrive at the Baking Co. at about 5pm, meeting officially starts at 5:30. It runs till 7pm when the cafe closes. Several members adjourn to the Second St. brewery on 2nd St., I usually pass on that and go home. I will not comment on the listing you have of things to reveal and repair. I choose to make my computing simpler and move on to making things work adequately; then carefully save my own files, yielding to progress the OS and applications. The higher level administrators at our meeting will likely be able to comment and assist you. See you Thursday. Thank you, Ted P.
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
Thanks Ted. What time at Baking Co.? I may try to get there if I can get a lift from my wife who has a similar time slot when she's out, 6-7:30. I'm still dealing with my OS breakdown and have done a few things. Briefly, I cloned my SSD to a new SSD and then analysed it with TestDisk (comes with Parted Magic and is a bootable CD). Found a ton of deleted folders that disappeared when I did the update as per the urging of Update Manager and toasted my 1.04 OS. TestDisk shows all the file structure in a partition, my Linux primary, both existing and the deleted folders that it can find. I had lost a major folder I named "Miscellany" (lots of important files over the years) and it shows up but has no files. My Music folder also shows up as not deleted but has no content either. There are hundreds of deleted files, of course as they haven't yet been overwritten (or they wouldn't show up). So I've lost at least the content of 2 major folders or the folder itself and apparently many others since I can't run Ubuntu Desktop. Which are what I can't begin to know and trying to restore them all so that Ubuntu 16.04 works again would be difficult beyond measure! TestDisk is a pretty amazing tool and I could show it off. It gives one the chance to recover those deleted folders and copy and then restore them. I have so many deleted files that I have no idea how I would ever determine which are ones I want/need to add to a new 18.04 install. I also want to migrate all of my browser, email, etc. from my hacked firefox and thunderbird (had to to get them to work with my address books, bookmarks, etc. that the newest versions don't see for some reason). If I can make it I can bring the Parted Magic disk, my new USB 1TB drive that has my cloned SSD on it. The rsync that you helped me with Mark, is not bootable nor readable with test disk except with Parted Magic file browser (no deleted folders or files though as only TestDisk does that) and not from my current ldxe desktop file browser. It shows up as a bootable image but I get a grub error and a rescue prompt, with which I know not what to do. So a long story and I'm not even sure i can manage the meeting but I'd like to try.
Brian
On 05/21/2018 06:02 PM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
NMGLugers, We meet again this week and if we see the same group we can follow up on several in-process repairs to software and installation. There might be a chance to "tweak" a new install to get the most appropriate software for a new user. We can look at upgrade issues for Ubuntu, and I have an 18.04 Live/Install usb to show off. I did some reading and at one place it said the Upgrade of older systems is applied at the xx.04.1 level, that is in the first numbered release after the initial release. July 1st is the time these have appeared in the past, give or take some leeway. Anybody can write to the list and add comments or issues to address at the meeting on Thursday. Thank you, Ted P. _______________________________________________ nmglug mailing list nmglug@lists.nmglug.org http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org
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Well, if you wait late long enough it becomes early, si? On 05/22/2018 10:07 AM, Satsangat Khalsa wrote:
I can give you a lift to Early, but I usually confuse that with Late;)
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com <mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com>> wrote:
I look forward to mtg. too Ted. Getting there at 5:30 is no problem but I wouldn't get picked up until 7:40 or so, so I'm not sure that will work. If it's nice I can wait outside. My wife's thing is on Early street if someone could give me a lift there that would be most welcome.
Don't worry about engaging in my fiasco but I have learned a lesson, though I don't know how I'll resolve it and getting back to a simpler OS set-up as you describe and still have at least the most important apps that I use thru Wine or otherwise. And what's this about backups? We don't need no stinking backups! (Hah). I know that the rsync was supposed to create a snapshot of my system and all in it. I know that you're not dealing with this sort of thing but it's good info none the less. It seems that the update not only deleted folders it resurrected some back into my OS and they pop up in my file browser after I had deleted them! I wonder what went on with that update. what a scramble.
Anyway, if I can make it perhaps someone can at least be amused!
I'll try to make it, we'll see.
Brian
On 05/22/2018 08:16 AM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
Brian, I look forward to meeting you. I arrive at the Baking Co. at about 5pm, meeting officially starts at 5:30. It runs till 7pm when the cafe closes. Several members adjourn to the Second St. brewery on 2nd St., I usually pass on that and go home. I will not comment on the listing you have of things to reveal and repair. I choose to make my computing simpler and move on to making things work adequately; then carefully save my own files, yielding to progress the OS and applications. The higher level administrators at our meeting will likely be able to comment and assist you. See you Thursday. Thank you, Ted P.
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com <mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com>> wrote:
Thanks Ted. What time at Baking Co.? I may try to get there if I can get a lift from my wife who has a similar time slot when she's out, 6-7:30. I'm still dealing with my OS breakdown and have done a few things. Briefly, I cloned my SSD to a new SSD and then analysed it with TestDisk (comes with Parted Magic and is a bootable CD). Found a ton of deleted folders that disappeared when I did the update as per the urging of Update Manager and toasted my 1.04 OS. TestDisk shows all the file structure in a partition, my Linux primary, both existing and the deleted folders that it can find. I had lost a major folder I named "Miscellany" (lots of important files over the years) and it shows up but has no files. My Music folder also shows up as not deleted but has no content either. There are hundreds of deleted files, of course as they haven't yet been overwritten (or they wouldn't show up). So I've lost at least the content of 2 major folders or the folder itself and apparently many others since I can't run Ubuntu Desktop. Which are what I can't begin to know and trying to restore them all so that Ubuntu 16.04 works again would be difficult beyond measure! TestDisk is a pretty amazing tool and I could show it off. It gives one the chance to recover those deleted folders and copy and then restore them. I have so many deleted files that I have no idea how I would ever determine which are ones I want/need to add to a new 18.04 install. I also want to migrate all of my browser, email, etc. from my hacked firefox and thunderbird (had to to get them to work with my address books, bookmarks, etc. that the newest versions don't see for some reason). If I can make it I can bring the Parted Magic disk, my new USB 1TB drive that has my cloned SSD on it. The rsync that you helped me with Mark, is not bootable nor readable with test disk except with Parted Magic file browser (no deleted folders or files though as only TestDisk does that) and not from my current ldxe desktop file browser. It shows up as a bootable image but I get a grub error and a rescue prompt, with which I know not what to do. So a long story and I'm not even sure i can manage the meeting but I'd like to try.
Brian
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could i get a ride to and from a meeting some time have conflict this time maybe next time On Tue, May 22, 2018 10:07 am, Satsangat Khalsa wrote:
I can give you a lift to Early, but I usually confuse that with Late;)
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
I look forward to mtg. too Ted. Getting there at 5:30 is no problem but I wouldn't get picked up until 7:40 or so, so I'm not sure that will work. If it's nice I can wait outside. My wife's thing is on Early street if someone could give me a lift there that would be most welcome.
Don't worry about engaging in my fiasco but I have learned a lesson, though I don't know how I'll resolve it and getting back to a simpler OS set-up as you describe and still have at least the most important apps that I use thru Wine or otherwise. And what's this about backups? We don't need no stinking backups! (Hah). I know that the rsync was supposed to create a snapshot of my system and all in it. I know that you're not dealing with this sort of thing but it's good info none the less. It seems that the update not only deleted folders it resurrected some back into my OS and they pop up in my file browser after I had deleted them! I wonder what went on with that update. what a scramble.
Anyway, if I can make it perhaps someone can at least be amused!
I'll try to make it, we'll see.
Brian
On 05/22/2018 08:16 AM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
Brian, I look forward to meeting you. I arrive at the Baking Co. at about 5pm, meeting officially starts at 5:30. It runs till 7pm when the cafe closes. Several members adjourn to the Second St. brewery on 2nd St., I usually pass on that and go home. I will not comment on the listing you have of things to reveal and repair. I choose to make my computing simpler and move on to making things work adequately; then carefully save my own files, yielding to progress the OS and applications. The higher level administrators at our meeting will likely be able to comment and assist you. See you Thursday. Thank you, Ted P.
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
Thanks Ted. What time at Baking Co.? I may try to get there if I can get a lift from my wife who has a similar time slot when she's out, 6-7:30. I'm still dealing with my OS breakdown and have done a few things. Briefly, I cloned my SSD to a new SSD and then analysed it with TestDisk (comes with Parted Magic and is a bootable CD). Found a ton of deleted folders that disappeared when I did the update as per the urging of Update Manager and toasted my 1.04 OS. TestDisk shows all the file structure in a partition, my Linux primary, both existing and the deleted folders that it can find. I had lost a major folder I named "Miscellany" (lots of important files over the years) and it shows up but has no files. My Music folder also shows up as not deleted but has no content either. There are hundreds of deleted files, of course as they haven't yet been overwritten (or they wouldn't show up). So I've lost at least the content of 2 major folders or the folder itself and apparently many others since I can't run Ubuntu Desktop. Which are what I can't begin to know and trying to restore them all so that Ubuntu 16.04 works again would be difficult beyond measure! TestDisk is a pretty amazing tool and I could show it off. It gives one the chance to recover those deleted folders and copy and then restore them. I have so many deleted files that I have no idea how I would ever determine which are ones I want/need to add to a new 18.04 install. I also want to migrate all of my browser, email, etc. from my hacked firefox and thunderbird (had to to get them to work with my address books, bookmarks, etc. that the newest versions don't see for some reason). If I can make it I can bring the Parted Magic disk, my new USB 1TB drive that has my cloned SSD on it. The rsync that you helped me with Mark, is not bootable nor readable with test disk except with Parted Magic file browser (no deleted folders or files though as only TestDisk does that) and not from my current ldxe desktop file browser. It shows up as a bootable image but I get a grub error and a rescue prompt, with which I know not what to do. So a long story and I'm not even sure i can manage the meeting but I'd like to try.
Brian
On 05/21/2018 06:02 PM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
NMGLugers, We meet again this week and if we see the same group we can follow up on several in-process repairs to software and installation. There might be a chance to "tweak" a new install to get the most appropriate software for a new user. We can look at upgrade issues for Ubuntu, and I have an 18.04 Live/Install usb to show off. I did some reading and at one place it said the Upgrade of older systems is applied at the xx.04.1 level, that is in the first numbered release after the initial release. July 1st is the time these have appeared in the past, give or take some leeway. Anybody can write to the list and add comments or issues to address at the meeting on Thursday. Thank you, Ted P. _______________________________________________ nmglug mailing list nmglug@lists.nmglug.org http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org
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I'm not sure I understand this message Brian On 05/23/2018 08:06 AM, satguru@newmexico.com wrote:
could i get a ride to and from a meeting some time have conflict this time maybe next time
On Tue, May 22, 2018 10:07 am, Satsangat Khalsa wrote:
I can give you a lift to Early, but I usually confuse that with Late;)
On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
I look forward to mtg. too Ted. Getting there at 5:30 is no problem but I wouldn't get picked up until 7:40 or so, so I'm not sure that will work. If it's nice I can wait outside. My wife's thing is on Early street if someone could give me a lift there that would be most welcome.
Don't worry about engaging in my fiasco but I have learned a lesson, though I don't know how I'll resolve it and getting back to a simpler OS set-up as you describe and still have at least the most important apps that I use thru Wine or otherwise. And what's this about backups? We don't need no stinking backups! (Hah). I know that the rsync was supposed to create a snapshot of my system and all in it. I know that you're not dealing with this sort of thing but it's good info none the less. It seems that the update not only deleted folders it resurrected some back into my OS and they pop up in my file browser after I had deleted them! I wonder what went on with that update. what a scramble.
Anyway, if I can make it perhaps someone can at least be amused!
I'll try to make it, we'll see.
Brian
On 05/22/2018 08:16 AM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
Brian, I look forward to meeting you. I arrive at the Baking Co. at about 5pm, meeting officially starts at 5:30. It runs till 7pm when the cafe closes. Several members adjourn to the Second St. brewery on 2nd St., I usually pass on that and go home. I will not comment on the listing you have of things to reveal and repair. I choose to make my computing simpler and move on to making things work adequately; then carefully save my own files, yielding to progress the OS and applications. The higher level administrators at our meeting will likely be able to comment and assist you. See you Thursday. Thank you, Ted P.
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
Thanks Ted. What time at Baking Co.? I may try to get there if I can get a lift from my wife who has a similar time slot when she's out, 6-7:30. I'm still dealing with my OS breakdown and have done a few things. Briefly, I cloned my SSD to a new SSD and then analysed it with TestDisk (comes with Parted Magic and is a bootable CD). Found a ton of deleted folders that disappeared when I did the update as per the urging of Update Manager and toasted my 1.04 OS. TestDisk shows all the file structure in a partition, my Linux primary, both existing and the deleted folders that it can find. I had lost a major folder I named "Miscellany" (lots of important files over the years) and it shows up but has no files. My Music folder also shows up as not deleted but has no content either. There are hundreds of deleted files, of course as they haven't yet been overwritten (or they wouldn't show up). So I've lost at least the content of 2 major folders or the folder itself and apparently many others since I can't run Ubuntu Desktop. Which are what I can't begin to know and trying to restore them all so that Ubuntu 16.04 works again would be difficult beyond measure! TestDisk is a pretty amazing tool and I could show it off. It gives one the chance to recover those deleted folders and copy and then restore them. I have so many deleted files that I have no idea how I would ever determine which are ones I want/need to add to a new 18.04 install. I also want to migrate all of my browser, email, etc. from my hacked firefox and thunderbird (had to to get them to work with my address books, bookmarks, etc. that the newest versions don't see for some reason). If I can make it I can bring the Parted Magic disk, my new USB 1TB drive that has my cloned SSD on it. The rsync that you helped me with Mark, is not bootable nor readable with test disk except with Parted Magic file browser (no deleted folders or files though as only TestDisk does that) and not from my current ldxe desktop file browser. It shows up as a bootable image but I get a grub error and a rescue prompt, with which I know not what to do. So a long story and I'm not even sure i can manage the meeting but I'd like to try.
Brian
On 05/21/2018 06:02 PM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
NMGLugers, We meet again this week and if we see the same group we can follow up on several in-process repairs to software and installation. There might be a chance to "tweak" a new install to get the most appropriate software for a new user. We can look at upgrade issues for Ubuntu, and I have an 18.04 Live/Install usb to show off. I did some reading and at one place it said the Upgrade of older systems is applied at the xx.04.1 level, that is in the first numbered release after the initial release. July 1st is the time these have appeared in the past, give or take some leeway. Anybody can write to the list and add comments or issues to address at the meeting on Thursday. Thank you, Ted P. _______________________________________________ nmglug mailing list nmglug@lists.nmglug.org http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org
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Hi all, After a somewhat tail-chasing evening on my trying to install 18.04 onto my new 1TB SSD we gave up. Ted loaned me his USB live drive (and I will guard it with your life Ted) and so this afternoon I allowed the installer to deal with partitions and Grub, etc. there was an issue with a UEFI board capable or not. Last nite we tried tweaking this and that but the installer just handled it. I watched the output during the install and the installer found my UEFI platform and then did a Grub upgrade by itself. So after 20 minutes I had a fully functioning install, sort of. I knew that my broadcom driver was wonky even though I could choose it in the live version and wifi worked but on the install the driver showed up but couldn't be activated. I installed synaptic and then installed every broadcom kernel DKMS, and all things Broadcom. I then chose it as the driver and now have fully functioning wifi. A big question is that since I was hacked, probably at Standing Rock, how can I migrate profiles (Firefox and Thunderbird) and files without dragging some infection with them and giving "them" access again? I need help with that one! I'll try to make next meeting but my wife is out of town. If someone is on the north side of town near the P.O., perhaps I could hitch a ride. I'll try to use my clout to keep the Baking Co. open until 7:30 again! That's the news from here. Good to have seen all! Brian
Brian & NMGLugers, Bravo Brian. Glad the install worked and Grub and wifi wrinkles ironed out. My take on the browser data is to not bring it in. Unless you checked all the parameters in Firefox 'about:config' by hand and know the defaults, you run the risk of problems. I say start fresh, read the old files in the isolated drive if you need to find a link you hae forgotten. But if you know the name you can find the url. Also read the news on the new rules from Europe and note how the internet is changing. Good luck either way. Glad for your success. Thank you, Ted P. On Fri, May 25, 2018, 6:44 PM <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
Hi all,
After a somewhat tail-chasing evening on my trying to install 18.04 onto my new 1TB SSD we gave up. Ted loaned me his USB live drive (and I will guard it with your life Ted) and so this afternoon I allowed the installer to deal with partitions and Grub, etc. there was an issue with a UEFI board capable or not. Last nite we tried tweaking this and that but the installer just handled it. I watched the output during the install and the installer found my UEFI platform and then did a Grub upgrade by itself. So after 20 minutes I had a fully functioning install, sort of. I knew that my broadcom driver was wonky even though I could choose it in the live version and wifi worked but on the install the driver showed up but couldn't be activated. I installed synaptic and then installed every broadcom kernel DKMS, and all things Broadcom. I then chose it as the driver and now have fully functioning wifi. A big question is that since I was hacked, probably at Standing Rock, how can I migrate profiles (Firefox and Thunderbird) and files without dragging some infection with them and giving "them" access again? I need help with that one! I'll try to make next meeting but my wife is out of town. If someone is on the north side of town near the P.O., perhaps I could hitch a ride. I'll try to use my clout to keep the Baking Co. open until 7:30 again!
That's the news from here. Good to have seen all!
Brian
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Good to hear about the install. I'm, probably, available to give you a ride. I come in on 84/285 from Espy so could swing by somewhere. On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 8:26 AM, Ted Pomeroy <ted.pome@gmail.com> wrote:
Brian & NMGLugers, Bravo Brian. Glad the install worked and Grub and wifi wrinkles ironed out. My take on the browser data is to not bring it in. Unless you checked all the parameters in Firefox 'about:config' by hand and know the defaults, you run the risk of problems. I say start fresh, read the old files in the isolated drive if you need to find a link you hae forgotten. But if you know the name you can find the url. Also read the news on the new rules from Europe and note how the internet is changing. Good luck either way. Glad for your success. Thank you, Ted P.
On Fri, May 25, 2018, 6:44 PM <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
Hi all,
After a somewhat tail-chasing evening on my trying to install 18.04 onto my new 1TB SSD we gave up. Ted loaned me his USB live drive (and I will guard it with your life Ted) and so this afternoon I allowed the installer to deal with partitions and Grub, etc. there was an issue with a UEFI board capable or not. Last nite we tried tweaking this and that but the installer just handled it. I watched the output during the install and the installer found my UEFI platform and then did a Grub upgrade by itself. So after 20 minutes I had a fully functioning install, sort of. I knew that my broadcom driver was wonky even though I could choose it in the live version and wifi worked but on the install the driver showed up but couldn't be activated. I installed synaptic and then installed every broadcom kernel DKMS, and all things Broadcom. I then chose it as the driver and now have fully functioning wifi. A big question is that since I was hacked, probably at Standing Rock, how can I migrate profiles (Firefox and Thunderbird) and files without dragging some infection with them and giving "them" access again? I need help with that one! I'll try to make next meeting but my wife is out of town. If someone is on the north side of town near the P.O., perhaps I could hitch a ride. I'll try to use my clout to keep the Baking Co. open until 7:30 again!
That's the news from here. Good to have seen all!
Brian
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I got clearance from my MD to drive, carefully. If I don't feel it's a good idea I'll email you Satsangat. thanks and I'll keep you posted. Oh, I pulled the HDD from my last laptop and it had some of my missing data but very outdated so some is gone forever. The mysterious Miscellany folder was in there and some of my music. New install is working just peachy. Using MATE WM for Ubuntu. Much like the classic gnome but more easily configured for applets I want, like sound, screen brightness, etc. Now to set up a back up routine. I like GUI versions so I'll see what's in the most recent repositories. On 05/29/2018 10:23 AM, Satsangat Khalsa wrote:
Good to hear about the install. I'm, probably, available to give you a ride. I come in on 84/285 from Espy so could swing by somewhere.
On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 8:26 AM, Ted Pomeroy <ted.pome@gmail.com <mailto:ted.pome@gmail.com>> wrote:
Brian & NMGLugers, Bravo Brian. Glad the install worked and Grub and wifi wrinkles ironed out. My take on the browser data is to not bring it in. Unless you checked all the parameters in Firefox 'about:config' by hand and know the defaults, you run the risk of problems. I say start fresh, read the old files in the isolated drive if you need to find a link you hae forgotten. But if you know the name you can find the url. Also read the news on the new rules from Europe and note how the internet is changing. Good luck either way. Glad for your success. Thank you, Ted P.
On Fri, May 25, 2018, 6:44 PM <okeefe@cybermesa.com <mailto:okeefe@cybermesa.com>> wrote:
Hi all,
After a somewhat tail-chasing evening on my trying to install 18.04 onto my new 1TB SSD we gave up. Ted loaned me his USB live drive (and I will guard it with your life Ted) and so this afternoon I allowed the installer to deal with partitions and Grub, etc. there was an issue with a UEFI board capable or not. Last nite we tried tweaking this and that but the installer just handled it. I watched the output during the install and the installer found my UEFI platform and then did a Grub upgrade by itself. So after 20 minutes I had a fully functioning install, sort of. I knew that my broadcom driver was wonky even though I could choose it in the live version and wifi worked but on the install the driver showed up but couldn't be activated. I installed synaptic and then installed every broadcom kernel DKMS, and all things Broadcom. I then chose it as the driver and now have fully functioning wifi. A big question is that since I was hacked, probably at Standing Rock, how can I migrate profiles (Firefox and Thunderbird) and files without dragging some infection with them and giving "them" access again? I need help with that one! I'll try to make next meeting but my wife is out of town. If someone is on the north side of town near the P.O., perhaps I could hitch a ride. I'll try to use my clout to keep the Baking Co. open until 7:30 again!
That's the news from here. Good to have seen all!
Brian
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