Hi Brian, I look forward to seeing you. I can wait with you and if the weather is nice it should be no problem, as I don't drive I cannot offer a ride, but others might as Early St. is so close by our meeting. By the way a Backup is a copy of the files you don't want to lose. So if you are trying to recover music and miscellany, you had files that might have been copied to a backup drive and verified safe before upgrade. You can be bold about this, but one is always warned that a good backup will save you time in the long run. A fresh install is always a good way to move forward. It's a new environment adjusted to the changes in computing and the Internet, ready to improve the computing experience. By the way I will bring the release notes from 16.04 as an example of known changes and problems with a new release. Thank you, Ted P. On Tue, May 22, 2018 at 9:23 AM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
I look forward to mtg. too Ted. Getting there at 5:30 is no problem but I wouldn't get picked up until 7:40 or so, so I'm not sure that will work. If it's nice I can wait outside. My wife's thing is on Early street if someone could give me a lift there that would be most welcome.
Don't worry about engaging in my fiasco but I have learned a lesson, though I don't know how I'll resolve it and getting back to a simpler OS set-up as you describe and still have at least the most important apps that I use thru Wine or otherwise. And what's this about backups? We don't need no stinking backups! (Hah). I know that the rsync was supposed to create a snapshot of my system and all in it. I know that you're not dealing with this sort of thing but it's good info none the less. It seems that the update not only deleted folders it resurrected some back into my OS and they pop up in my file browser after I had deleted them! I wonder what went on with that update. what a scramble.
Anyway, if I can make it perhaps someone can at least be amused!
I'll try to make it, we'll see.
Brian
On 05/22/2018 08:16 AM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
Brian, I look forward to meeting you. I arrive at the Baking Co. at about 5pm, meeting officially starts at 5:30. It runs till 7pm when the cafe closes. Several members adjourn to the Second St. brewery on 2nd St., I usually pass on that and go home. I will not comment on the listing you have of things to reveal and repair. I choose to make my computing simpler and move on to making things work adequately; then carefully save my own files, yielding to progress the OS and applications. The higher level administrators at our meeting will likely be able to comment and assist you. See you Thursday. Thank you, Ted P.
On Mon, May 21, 2018 at 10:48 PM, Brian O'Keefe <okeefe@cybermesa.com> wrote:
Thanks Ted. What time at Baking Co.? I may try to get there if I can get a lift from my wife who has a similar time slot when she's out, 6-7:30. I'm still dealing with my OS breakdown and have done a few things. Briefly, I cloned my SSD to a new SSD and then analysed it with TestDisk (comes with Parted Magic and is a bootable CD). Found a ton of deleted folders that disappeared when I did the update as per the urging of Update Manager and toasted my 1.04 OS. TestDisk shows all the file structure in a partition, my Linux primary, both existing and the deleted folders that it can find. I had lost a major folder I named "Miscellany" (lots of important files over the years) and it shows up but has no files. My Music folder also shows up as not deleted but has no content either. There are hundreds of deleted files, of course as they haven't yet been overwritten (or they wouldn't show up). So I've lost at least the content of 2 major folders or the folder itself and apparently many others since I can't run Ubuntu Desktop. Which are what I can't begin to know and trying to restore them all so that Ubuntu 16.04 works again would be difficult beyond measure! TestDisk is a pretty amazing tool and I could show it off. It gives one the chance to recover those deleted folders and copy and then restore them. I have so many deleted files that I have no idea how I would ever determine which are ones I want/need to add to a new 18.04 install. I also want to migrate all of my browser, email, etc. from my hacked firefox and thunderbird (had to to get them to work with my address books, bookmarks, etc. that the newest versions don't see for some reason). If I can make it I can bring the Parted Magic disk, my new USB 1TB drive that has my cloned SSD on it. The rsync that you helped me with Mark, is not bootable nor readable with test disk except with Parted Magic file browser (no deleted folders or files though as only TestDisk does that) and not from my current ldxe desktop file browser. It shows up as a bootable image but I get a grub error and a rescue prompt, with which I know not what to do. So a long story and I'm not even sure i can manage the meeting but I'd like to try.
Brian
On 05/21/2018 06:02 PM, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
NMGLugers, We meet again this week and if we see the same group we can follow up on several in-process repairs to software and installation. There might be a chance to "tweak" a new install to get the most appropriate software for a new user. We can look at upgrade issues for Ubuntu, and I have an 18.04 Live/Install usb to show off. I did some reading and at one place it said the Upgrade of older systems is applied at the xx.04.1 level, that is in the first numbered release after the initial release. July 1st is the time these have appeared in the past, give or take some leeway. Anybody can write to the list and add comments or issues to address at the meeting on Thursday. Thank you, Ted P. _______________________________________________ nmglug mailing list nmglug@lists.nmglug.org http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org
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