It did send the blank message out, although I am sure we could configure Mailman not to do that in the future if we wanted. I will ask my parents if I can borrow their multimeter to bring. I am trying to upgrade my mother's laptop from Wheezy to Jessie*, but I am having some problems because I forgot that the wireless card needs the proprietary B45 (B for Broadcom) firmware, which I have on my external harddrive, transferred to a USB thumb/flash/jump drive, and tried to get the installer to see, to no avail. I had made a netinstall CD, which got me a non-graphical base system (I do not remember how to mount drives, install firmware, connect to the wireless, and download additional packages when convenient commands like iwconfig [and sudo!] are missing). I then made a non-netinstall DVD triplet, which failed during installation for unknown-to-me optical drive read/write reasons. I will bring these discs and the laptop in tomorrow seeking installation help, so I just wanted to give this heads-up email for anyone who feels up to it. See y'all** then! -Arlo James Barnes *In preparation to upgrade my own laptop after, because I need to fiddle with a lot more user data. **Totality of readership not guaranteed.