Hi NMGLugers, We meet tonight and Liz will bring a mis-behaving laptop. We did the updates a year or so ago. I don't think I have seen her since. Wifi connection issues and browser issues on some sites. I suggested she restart all the gear at home and see if that cleared up the issues. It may be time for upgrade, she is doing any updates herself. I will bring the Tomu, for anyone interested. I am not going to pursue it. I am working on getting completely into Debian and use of the GUI so I can convert others who have been using Xubuntu. One known issue in xfce4 is a broken panel clock, but Orage clock/calendar works well in its place. See you at the Baking Co. around 5:15 or so. Thank you, Ted P.