Hi NMGLUGers, We are scheduled to meet at 5:30 tonight. I don't have any real news, but was inspired by some of the discussion last time to do yet another install - this time on an HP mini unit. Cleaned out my closet to get a monitor and mouse, keyboard from a friend and proceeded. I had to kill the installed system. It was running on 3 partitions and after the "Recovery" partition was deleted I couldn't dual boot. Oh Joy, just a neat Gnu/Linux install. Intel i5, 16 GB ram and 500 GB SSD. I'm proceeding apace. I took a brief look at Overleaf, referenced LaTex and Tex, these are the typesetting or markup language tools to make documents incorporating mathematical formulae. I have not used these, has anyone who might be at our video meeting tonight? Last week we also diverged off-topic to phones. We may continue this as well as we will not be having a too structured meeting. Thank you, Ted P.
Hi, I’ve been toying with the idea of “Replace desktop office software with free alternatives” series along the lines of: 1. Overleaf+Latex or Pandoc Markdown for documents 2. Overleaf+Latex+Beamer for presentations 3. RStudio for spreadsheets If there’s interest, I can do a set of 15-30 minute demos for each. In other news, I’ve been continuing to play around with the Gemini protocol. Gemini is actually pretty nice to build a site in. It’s like making a site in Markdown + a static site generator like Hugo, but without actually needing to run the static site generator. Cool! Cheers, -Art On Mar 11, 2021, 10:56 AM -0700, Ted Pomeroy <ted.pome@gmail.com>, wrote:
Hi NMGLUGers, We are scheduled to meet at 5:30 tonight. I don't have any real news, but was inspired by some of the discussion last time to do yet another install - this time on an HP mini unit. Cleaned out my closet to get a monitor and mouse, keyboard from a friend and proceeded. I had to kill the installed system. It was running on 3 partitions and after the "Recovery" partition was deleted I couldn't dual boot. Oh Joy, just a neat Gnu/Linux install. Intel i5, 16 GB ram and 500 GB SSD. I'm proceeding apace. I took a brief look at Overleaf, referenced LaTex and Tex, these are the typesetting or markup language tools to make documents incorporating mathematical formulae. I have not used these, has anyone who might be at our video meeting tonight? Last week we also diverged off-topic to phones. We may continue this as well as we will not be having a too structured meeting. Thank you, Ted P. _______________________________________________ nmglug mailing list nmglug@lists.nmglug.org http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org
I took a brief look at Overleaf, referenced LaTex and Tex, these are the typesetting or markup language tools to make documents incorporating mathematical formulae. I have not used these, has anyone who might be at our video meeting tonight?
I use TeX/LaTeX all the time, but I won't be there, although I would love to start joining again if we can shift the phase of the nmglug meetings. (I feel sheepish about that -- I had asked for this phase back when both nmglug and my workshops were at Warehouse 21, but that's not the case anymore, so now the effect is the opposite: I can never join the nmglug meetings. Anyone think we could shift the phase back to the other Thursday?)
Okay NMGLugers. How about re-phasing to allow Mark to join us more easily. In an entirely unofficial poll at last night's meeting there were no objections and 3 of 6 were in favor. We can reply to the list to see how everybody feels about this. If agreed we would have to pick a start date, but that is easy enough. Also Art B. will be giving us more information on the typesetting program and Markdown(a markup language) at a future meeting. Otherwise we had a good discussion which was wide ranging, including some off topic. Let me here remind the Free Software Foundation and ItsFOSS as places to immerse oneself in Free Software. Though I am afraid many of us are less pure about this than we might be. I know I fail the purity test from time to time. I just checked out the new address at 'nmgl.ug' - not sure a Ugandan host is going to be any quicker than other hosting. This was arranged by Sam to forward to Nnmglug.org. It does work, no apparent delay. Interesting. Thank you, Ted P On Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 12:42 PM Mark Galassi <mark@galassi.org> wrote:
I took a brief look at Overleaf, referenced LaTex and Tex, these are the typesetting or markup language tools to make documents incorporating mathematical formulae. I have not used these, has anyone who might be at our video meeting tonight?
I use TeX/LaTeX all the time, but I won't be there, although I would love to start joining again if we can shift the phase of the nmglug meetings.
(I feel sheepish about that -- I had asked for this phase back when both nmglug and my workshops were at Warehouse 21, but that's not the case anymore, so now the effect is the opposite: I can never join the nmglug meetings. Anyone think we could shift the phase back to the other Thursday?)
Cool! I think next meeting I’ll go over Pandoc Markdown, the Markdown flavor used by the most excellent Pandoc document converter, and next month will be either Latex/Overleaf or Hugo. Pandoc https://pandoc.org/ is a wonderful tool for converting between just about any document format. I use it for converting notes I take on an Alphasmart Dana in Markdown into PDF. I’ve also used it for translating Latex documents into MS Word. For the curious, the Alphasmart line of devices was a set of smart keyboards that you could use to type up text documents on the fly, then connect to a USB port on a computer where it would emulate a hardware keyboard to “type” the document into whatever software was open. They were sadly killed off by netbooks/cheap laptops/tablets which brought an end to offline computing. I hold out hope that someone will resurrect the idea one day. From: Mark Galassi Sent: Friday, March 12, 2021 12:33 PM To: Ted Pomeroy Cc: NMGLUG.org mailing list Subject: Re: [nmglug] Mtg. Tonight
Also Art B. will be giving us more information on the typesetting program and Markdown(a markup language) at a future meeting.
I'd love to be there for that: I've been doing a lot of evaluation of documentation formats lately. _______________________________________________ nmglug mailing list nmglug@lists.nmglug.org http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org
On Fri, 2021-03-12 at 11:31 -0700, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
Okay NMGLugers. How about re-phasing to allow Mark to join us more easily. In an entirely unofficial poll at last night's meeting there were no objections and 3 of 6 were in favor. We can reply to the list to see how everybody feels about this. If agreed we would have to pick a start date, but that is easy enough.
I have no objections. Are there any other considerations we should makebefore changing it?
NMGLugers, May I suggest if no* other considerations *are voiced that we proceed by letting Art and Mark select a date in April to have Art do his presentation and from that date we 'shift phase' to that Thursday and subsequent two week interval Thursdays. Please respond either to make an alternate suggestion or correct this one so we can move forward. Thank you, Ted P, Santa Fe On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 9:50 AM Jason Schaefer <js@jasonschaefer.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2021-03-12 at 11:31 -0700, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
Okay NMGLugers. How about re-phasing to allow Mark to join us more easily. In an entirely unofficial poll at last night's meeting there were no objections and 3 of 6 were in favor. We can reply to the list to see how everybody feels about this. If agreed we would have to pick a start date, but that is easy enough.
I have no objections. Are there any other considerations we should makebefore changing it?
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sounds right On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:48 AM Ted Pomeroy <ted.pome@gmail.com> wrote:
NMGLugers, May I suggest if no* other considerations *are voiced that we proceed by letting Art and Mark select a date in April to have Art do his presentation and from that date we 'shift phase' to that Thursday and subsequent two week interval Thursdays. Please respond either to make an alternate suggestion or correct this one so we can move forward. Thank you, Ted P, Santa Fe
On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 9:50 AM Jason Schaefer <js@jasonschaefer.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2021-03-12 at 11:31 -0700, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
Okay NMGLugers. How about re-phasing to allow Mark to join us more easily. In an entirely unofficial poll at last night's meeting there were no objections and 3 of 6 were in favor. We can reply to the list to see how everybody feels about this. If agreed we would have to pick a start date, but that is easy enough.
I have no objections. Are there any other considerations we should makebefore changing it?
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Works for me. On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:48 AM Ted Pomeroy <ted.pome@gmail.com> wrote:
NMGLugers, May I suggest if no* other considerations *are voiced that we proceed by letting Art and Mark select a date in April to have Art do his presentation and from that date we 'shift phase' to that Thursday and subsequent two week interval Thursdays. Please respond either to make an alternate suggestion or correct this one so we can move forward. Thank you, Ted P, Santa Fe
On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 9:50 AM Jason Schaefer <js@jasonschaefer.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2021-03-12 at 11:31 -0700, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
Okay NMGLugers. How about re-phasing to allow Mark to join us more easily. In an entirely unofficial poll at last night's meeting there were no objections and 3 of 6 were in favor. We can reply to the list to see how everybody feels about this. If agreed we would have to pick a start date, but that is easy enough.
I have no objections. Are there any other considerations we should makebefore changing it?
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NMGLUGers, Art and Mark, I think we can go ahead with the phase shift around Art's talks. Art and Mark, can you two set dates for April that do the phase shift and allow Mark to attend both of Art's next two presentations? We can use next week's session on the 25th for our usual random discussions of Gnu/Linux news and our own issues and preferences. In particular it would be good for Art and Mark to get together on the dates and for one or both to get back to the list with the new dates. Thank you, Ted P. On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 8:46 PM Don Crowder <donguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
Works for me.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:48 AM Ted Pomeroy <ted.pome@gmail.com> wrote:
NMGLugers, May I suggest if no* other considerations *are voiced that we proceed by letting Art and Mark select a date in April to have Art do his presentation and from that date we 'shift phase' to that Thursday and subsequent two week interval Thursdays. Please respond either to make an alternate suggestion or correct this one so we can move forward. Thank you, Ted P, Santa Fe
On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 9:50 AM Jason Schaefer <js@jasonschaefer.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2021-03-12 at 11:31 -0700, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
Okay NMGLugers. How about re-phasing to allow Mark to join us more easily. In an entirely unofficial poll at last night's meeting there were no objections and 3 of 6 were in favor. We can reply to the list to see how everybody feels about this. If agreed we would have to pick a start date, but that is easy enough.
I have no objections. Are there any other considerations we should makebefore changing it?
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Hi Ted & All - Talked with Mark, it looks like Friday, April 16th will be a good date to go over Pandoc/Markdown/documentation formats (unless you were really thinking Thursday the 15th, Mark). My grand plan is to have a set of little 15-minute demos of FOSS software I’ve found helpful, and set those around the half-hour mark (6pm). So tentatively with re-phasing we would have something like: • April 1: Replace Excel with RStudio • April 16: Write documents in Pandoc Markdown, exploring documentation formats • April 22: Make a website in Markdown with Static Site Generators like Hugo • May 6: Make a website with Gemini/Gemtext • May 20: Replace Word with Overleaf/Latex • June 3: Replace Powerpoint with Overleaf/Latex/Beamer/Metropolis • June 17: Alternate shells: Fish shell & object shells • July 1: Keep track of RLY BIG files with Git-Annex We can move/replace/drop stuff based on interest. Cheers, -Art On Mar 16, 2021, 12:30 PM -0600, Ted Pomeroy <ted.pome@gmail.com>, wrote:
NMGLUGers, Art and Mark, I think we can go ahead with the phase shift around Art's talks. Art and Mark, can you two set dates for April that do the phase shift and allow Mark to attend both of Art's next two presentations? We can use next week's session on the 25th for our usual random discussions of Gnu/Linux news and our own issues and preferences. In particular it would be good for Art and Mark to get together on the dates and for one or both to get back to the list with the new dates. Thank you, Ted P.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 8:46 PM Don Crowder <donguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
Works for me.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:48 AM Ted Pomeroy <ted.pome@gmail.com> wrote:
NMGLugers, May I suggest if no other considerations are voiced that we proceed by letting Art and Mark select a date in April to have Art do his presentation and from that date we 'shift phase' to that Thursday and subsequent two week interval Thursdays. Please respond either to make an alternate suggestion or correct this one so we can move forward. Thank you, Ted P, Santa Fe
On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 9:50 AM Jason Schaefer <js@jasonschaefer.com> wrote: > On Fri, 2021-03-12 at 11:31 -0700, Ted Pomeroy wrote: > > Okay NMGLugers. How about re-phasing to allow Mark to join us more > > easily. In an entirely unofficial poll at last night's meeting there > > were no objections and 3 of 6 were in favor. We can reply to the list > > to see how everybody feels about this. If agreed we would have to > > pick a start date, but that is easy enough. > > I have no objections. Are there any other considerations we should makebefore changing it? > > > _______________________________________________ > nmglug mailing list > nmglug@lists.nmglug.org > http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org
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NMGLUGers, Okay: April meetings will be Thursday Apr. 15 and Thursday Apr. 29. May and subsequent schedule to be every other Thursday from there on. I will adjust the website later today. Thank you, Ted P. On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 1:25 PM Mark Galassi <mark@galassi.org> wrote:
Talked with Mark, it looks like Friday, April 16th
Ouchouchouchouch: I mistook the 15th for the 16th. We are definitely sticking to Thursdays :-) _______________________________________________ nmglug mailing list nmglug@lists.nmglug.org http://lists.nmglug.org/listinfo.cgi/nmglug-nmglug.org
Art, Please see the intervening email. Since we meet every other week on Thursday, let's keep to the Thursdays. I guess okay to Apr. 1, Mark will pick up at the next meeting. We will see who and how many show up next week on March 25th. I will try to be there. By the end of today I will adjust the website. Thank you, Ted P. On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 1:10 PM <art@pin2.io> wrote:
Hi Ted & All -
Talked with Mark, it looks like Friday, April 16th will be a good date to go over Pandoc/Markdown/documentation formats (unless you were really thinking Thursday the 15th, Mark). My grand plan is to have a set of little 15-minute demos of FOSS software I’ve found helpful, and set those around the half-hour mark (6pm). So tentatively with re-phasing we would have something like:
- April 1: Replace Excel with RStudio - April 16: Write documents in Pandoc Markdown, exploring documentation formats - April 22: Make a website in Markdown with Static Site Generators like Hugo - May 6: Make a website with Gemini/Gemtext - May 20: Replace Word with Overleaf/Latex - June 3: Replace Powerpoint with Overleaf/Latex/Beamer/Metropolis - June 17: Alternate shells: Fish shell & object shells - July 1: Keep track of RLY BIG files with Git-Annex
We can move/replace/drop stuff based on interest.
Cheers, -Art On Mar 16, 2021, 12:30 PM -0600, Ted Pomeroy <ted.pome@gmail.com>, wrote:
NMGLUGers, Art and Mark, I think we can go ahead with the phase shift around Art's talks. Art and Mark, can you two set dates for April that do the phase shift and allow Mark to attend both of Art's next two presentations? We can use next week's session on the 25th for our usual random discussions of Gnu/Linux news and our own issues and preferences. In particular it would be good for Art and Mark to get together on the dates and for one or both to get back to the list with the new dates. Thank you, Ted P.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 8:46 PM Don Crowder <donguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
Works for me.
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:48 AM Ted Pomeroy <ted.pome@gmail.com> wrote:
NMGLugers, May I suggest if no *other considerations* are voiced that we proceed by letting Art and Mark select a date in April to have Art do his presentation and from that date we 'shift phase' to that Thursday and subsequent two week interval Thursdays. Please respond either to make an alternate suggestion or correct this one so we can move forward. Thank you, Ted P, Santa Fe
On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 9:50 AM Jason Schaefer <js@jasonschaefer.com> wrote:
On Fri, 2021-03-12 at 11:31 -0700, Ted Pomeroy wrote:
Okay NMGLugers. How about re-phasing to allow Mark to join us more easily. In an entirely unofficial poll at last night's meeting there were no objections and 3 of 6 were in favor. We can reply to the list to see how everybody feels about this. If agreed we would have to pick a start date, but that is easy enough.
I have no objections. Are there any other considerations we should makebefore changing it?
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art@pin2.io writes: • April 16: Write documents in Pandoc Markdown, exploring documentation formats
• May 20: Replace Word with Overleaf/Latex
Or just use Markdown and skip the Latex (if you don't need complex things like equations). I wrote my last book in Markdown, only converting to the Word format the publisher required at the very end before submitting each chapter.
• June 3: Replace Powerpoint with Overleaf/Latex/Beamer/Metropolis
I use HTML/CSS/Javascript for slides for talks. I don't know how interactive you want to make these meetings, but if there's room for discussions of different formats, I could show how that works. I like using HTML because it means I can share my slides as interactive web pages people can view in any browser, and because anything I learn about CSS or JavaScript to make better slides is knowledge I can also use for regular websites. ...Akkana
NMGLUGers, I have made changes to the Meeting calendar and added a post in "Latest" about our plans. Please review and let me know if there are any errors. See you March 25 and then April 1st, 15th and 29th. Thank you, Ted P. On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 3:18 PM Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com> wrote:
art@pin2.io writes: • April 16: Write documents in Pandoc Markdown, exploring documentation formats
• May 20: Replace Word with Overleaf/Latex
Or just use Markdown and skip the Latex (if you don't need complex things like equations). I wrote my last book in Markdown, only converting to the Word format the publisher required at the very end before submitting each chapter.
• June 3: Replace Powerpoint with Overleaf/Latex/Beamer/Metropolis
I use HTML/CSS/Javascript for slides for talks. I don't know how interactive you want to make these meetings, but if there's room for discussions of different formats, I could show how that works. I like using HTML because it means I can share my slides as interactive web pages people can view in any browser, and because anything I learn about CSS or JavaScript to make better slides is knowledge I can also use for regular websites.
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Cool! Thanks Ted. Akkana - Yes, I’d be interested in HTML slides! I’d looked at Remark for slides a while back but my knowledge of CSS is quite lacking so I went to Latex + Beamer -Art On Mar 16, 2021, 4:15 PM -0600, Ted Pomeroy <ted.pome@gmail.com>, wrote:
NMGLUGers, I have made changes to the Meeting calendar and added a post in "Latest" about our plans. Please review and let me know if there are any errors. See you March 25 and then April 1st, 15th and 29th. Thank you, Ted P.
On Tue, Mar 16, 2021 at 3:18 PM Akkana Peck <akkana@shallowsky.com> wrote:
art@pin2.io writes: • April 16: Write documents in Pandoc Markdown, exploring documentation formats
• May 20: Replace Word with Overleaf/Latex
Or just use Markdown and skip the Latex (if you don't need complex things like equations). I wrote my last book in Markdown, only converting to the Word format the publisher required at the very end before submitting each chapter.
• June 3: Replace Powerpoint with Overleaf/Latex/Beamer/Metropolis
I use HTML/CSS/Javascript for slides for talks. I don't know how interactive you want to make these meetings, but if there's room for discussions of different formats, I could show how that works. I like using HTML because it means I can share my slides as interactive web pages people can view in any browser, and because anything I learn about CSS or JavaScript to make better slides is knowledge I can also use for regular websites.
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Satsangat Khalsa -
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