Hi All, Since I may not make meeting (niece visiting and Thurs. is her last day) I'm putting my issue out for comment and hopefully answers. As many of you know I used to updgrade instead of clean installs and did that since Ubuntu 6.04. I had also added many apps from third parties and also modified many, many conf files to keep things working. I had a meltdown and lost much of my data but following a partial recovery, thanks to a certain group member, I installed a clean version of 18.04 onto a new 1TB SSD. I have ot tinkered at all with 3rd party software nor modified any conf files or been a bad boy in any way! My issue ids that I cannot shut down my box in anyway other than a hard shutdown. I also cannot restart it. I have tried the GUI option as well as switching to text mode and using "sudo shutdown now" or "sudo restart now". In those cases I get the splash screen with the "traveling lights" and Unutu but it hangs there. The traveling dots hang on the first dot of the splash screen and nothing happens. I had hoped that text mode would give give me an indication of the issues but I can't stay in that mode for some reason. Thanks for any help. Brian --