Just celebrating that I survived the 15 or so hours to install freebsd into virtualbox and get a Mate GUI plus guest additions so that it's a fully functional OS for me. I had lost my previous VMs after my OS went bonkers from the surveillance boys antics. Anyway it's a trip to install and all I can say is thank gawd for google! Brian Oh, and do we not like freebsd? You know, FOS and all? --