NMGLugers, We may have a chance to have the "best choice" debate this week. I've been in touch with a user who needs to upgrade an older install. Not sure what he had, but we can see and perhaps solve some upgrade vs. update issues. I have been up-dating this Debian 9 laptop, but also had some fun with a mini distro, "Peppermint" which looks like Mint with a dark theme and a mash up of lxde and mint menus and themes. But it runs on an older laptop with a Celeron processor and limited ram. I did have to purge 'apt-xapian-index' to keep the CPU free. On this old machine it had quite an impact and slowed down all other functions each boot. Hope to see a few of you at the New Baking Co. on Thursday. Thank you, Ted P.