NMGLUGers, We had a nice and lively meeting last night. We did not go into the scraping and other web issues/apps. We did, well some of did, have an in depth discussion of programming languages and styles. Also shell preferences to some extent. It was wide-ranging and covered a little nostalgia for the early conditions of programming in the 70's-80's. Some discussion of C and C++ and the problems of writing and compiling in a neat and orderly fashion - and the growth in size of programs due to the environmental limitations, hence Meson/mesonbuild, python, rust, GIT and DVC were discussed. We did range around a bit. Then shells, with support even for the powershell, not a Gnu/Linux item that. However, Bash, zsh, csh, tcsh and a few others were mentioned. As always there is the Emacs environment in which to code and do other work. A particular point was made that a shell script is a good thing, but not a substitute for using an appropriate coding language when getting into more detail. This is not a transcript of the meeting by any means. We did decide to postpone the scraping until all those who expressed an interest are present. Thank you, Ted P, Santa Fe