Have any of us attended the Santa Fe Mac Users' Group? They just celebrated their 20th anniversary, and we just passed our 10th a while ago. Maybe a representative could attend one of their meetings (I was thinking of doing so myself, although I have never really used a Macintosh) to evangelize free software and a common Unix heritage (or simply running GNU/Linux on Apple's hardware, as I know some of us do).-Arlo James Barnes